FWIW I use atuin (https://atuin.sh/) and am reasonably happy with it, especially the infinite capacity & snapiness. Ignoring the sync features, I believe it's also sqlite backed when running in local-only mode.
AFAIK it is always backed by a sqlite DB. That way the sync just populates the DB and the completion process doesn't care (or wait for) the central source.
PROMPT_COMMAND has the following flaw: a command gets recorded as soon as it has finished. So command which never finish (e.g. because they run for a long time, and the user closes the terminal window, or reboots the system) never get recorded. Another flaw: the users starts a long-running command in terminal window 1, and immediately they want to start a variant of it in terminal window 2, but it's not available in the history.
For me personally, while I like the history element, if I'm gathering/storing/searching everything, I'd love to also see the command output with the entered command, giving much better context.
Currently I tend to log all my ssh sessions out to text files and grep through the whole lot to find what I want, so a better version of that would be lovely, especially if it could automatically redact secrets or similar, as I'm aware thats a downside of the current setup.
seems to only have session agnostic history and a TUI for searching it, because the author didn't want all the features atuin offers. only 400 LOC too, pretty neat
is there a particular reason why i'd want sqlite-backed shell history? i mean sure it works but why not a text file? (which i'd assume is somewhat faster because you can just append)
i guess you could say it's because you may want dates for each command but for that you can just use a CSV or TSV file no?
In my case, I use Atuin. It has a concept of "context" so you can easily search the history for commands related to your current directory / project / etc. See [0] for some examples.
Now, I admit I don't use these that often, but they can be useful.
It also does stats and whatnot based on the history. I've never looked at those.
SQLite gives indexes that makes searching and locating previous entries much faster. This is relevant when the history is over 100K entries and one wants to avoid duplicates in history files.
I think you're underestimating the speed of modern computers and hard-drives, fzf can search through 100k entries easily without any delay. Try it with `cat /usr/share/dict/words | fzf`, it's extremely responsive (my dictionary is about 235k lines). If you want hard numbers, try piping your shell history through `time grep` and see how long finding an entry takes.
Even if you're on spinning rust, your shell history is probably in cache. You don't really need FST index for this usecase, IMHO.
I use SQLite history to have context aware line suggestion in my shell. So the command that gets ghost displayed (and can be expanded with right arrow) depends on the current working directory, its parents and recency.
This is fast enough using SQLite to just dump all commands into it and query on each typed letter.
The DB is at this point 10years old. I use it to evaluate my work habits and patterns.
More recently I have started transitioning to a different shell and I used it to move only the functions and aliases I still use, instead of the full collection.
Would be interesting to have a non-interactive mode so you can ask your AI to look for a command too.. but I guess if it's sqlite underneath then it's already de facto possible (and the the cltr+r may be usable from harnesses too not sure)
I'm only interested in how it treats multiline commands in bash. It's the only thing that the default history doesn't do consistently (unless you make it replace \n with ;, which is just unuable). Otherwise, fzf + history works just fine.
Does it support just synching the db via nextcloud or similar? I'd prefer to stick to the Unix philosophy of one tool for one job instead of native cloud integration
created this gnome-extension to launch a gnome terminal with separate history files. bash script gt.sh [projname] launches a gnome-terminal with a history file in ~/.histories/projname
For me the killer feature of atuin is that it allows searching the history of commands executed from the current working directory. Typically I have 10,000 plus commands in history but only a few in the current directory and I tend to run the same complex commands from the same directory.
FWIW I use atuin (https://atuin.sh/) and am reasonably happy with it, especially the infinite capacity & snapiness. Ignoring the sync features, I believe it's also sqlite backed when running in local-only mode.
AFAIK it is always backed by a sqlite DB. That way the sync just populates the DB and the completion process doesn't care (or wait for) the central source.
The readme starts by saying how the author used to use atuin, and why they wrote stinkpot as a less featureful alternative.
As indicated in https://tangled.org/oppi.li/stinkpot/blob/cdf87ffcd36e96f3d4... , this software (stinkpot) still uses Bash PROMPT_COMMAND as an entry point to copy new shell history entries to its database.
PROMPT_COMMAND has the following flaw: a command gets recorded as soon as it has finished. So command which never finish (e.g. because they run for a long time, and the user closes the terminal window, or reboots the system) never get recorded. Another flaw: the users starts a long-running command in terminal window 1, and immediately they want to start a variant of it in terminal window 2, but it's not available in the history.
For me personally, while I like the history element, if I'm gathering/storing/searching everything, I'd love to also see the command output with the entered command, giving much better context.
Currently I tend to log all my ssh sessions out to text files and grep through the whole lot to find what I want, so a better version of that would be lovely, especially if it could automatically redact secrets or similar, as I'm aware thats a downside of the current setup.
For those of you on zsh, I have been a big fan of https://github.com/larkery/zsh-histdb
It is written entirely in shell script, with the only dependency being sqlite itself.
I recently “fixed” my bash history since the default experience when using multiple terminals sucks.
https://dandavis.dev/the-bash-history-i-always-wanted.html
I also use fzf to search my history I believe you just need so source the right keybindings file to make ctrl+r use fzf.
Perfect! I wanted this without all the extras of atuin that I never use.
A little curious but too lazy to find out, what's the difference between this and atuin vs fzf?
Also I do like the premise, recently stopped using atuin due to all the extra bells and whistles and just went back to fzf.
seems to only have session agnostic history and a TUI for searching it, because the author didn't want all the features atuin offers. only 400 LOC too, pretty neat
is there a particular reason why i'd want sqlite-backed shell history? i mean sure it works but why not a text file? (which i'd assume is somewhat faster because you can just append)
i guess you could say it's because you may want dates for each command but for that you can just use a CSV or TSV file no?
does it have to do with the searching?
In my case, I use Atuin. It has a concept of "context" so you can easily search the history for commands related to your current directory / project / etc. See [0] for some examples.
Now, I admit I don't use these that often, but they can be useful.
It also does stats and whatnot based on the history. I've never looked at those.
[0] https://docs.atuin.sh/latest/guide/advanced-usage/
SQLite gives indexes that makes searching and locating previous entries much faster. This is relevant when the history is over 100K entries and one wants to avoid duplicates in history files.
I think you're underestimating the speed of modern computers and hard-drives, fzf can search through 100k entries easily without any delay. Try it with `cat /usr/share/dict/words | fzf`, it's extremely responsive (my dictionary is about 235k lines). If you want hard numbers, try piping your shell history through `time grep` and see how long finding an entry takes.
Even if you're on spinning rust, your shell history is probably in cache. You don't really need FST index for this usecase, IMHO.
I use SQLite history to have context aware line suggestion in my shell. So the command that gets ghost displayed (and can be expanded with right arrow) depends on the current working directory, its parents and recency. This is fast enough using SQLite to just dump all commands into it and query on each typed letter.
The DB is at this point 10years old. I use it to evaluate my work habits and patterns. More recently I have started transitioning to a different shell and I used it to move only the functions and aliases I still use, instead of the full collection.
Would be interesting to have a non-interactive mode so you can ask your AI to look for a command too.. but I guess if it's sqlite underneath then it's already de facto possible (and the the cltr+r may be usable from harnesses too not sure)
I'm only interested in how it treats multiline commands in bash. It's the only thing that the default history doesn't do consistently (unless you make it replace \n with ;, which is just unuable). Otherwise, fzf + history works just fine.
Does it support just synching the db via nextcloud or similar? I'd prefer to stick to the Unix philosophy of one tool for one job instead of native cloud integration
I mean, it's an sqlite file on disk. You can sync it however you like. https://litestream.io is a fun choice.
created this gnome-extension to launch a gnome terminal with separate history files. bash script gt.sh [projname] launches a gnome-terminal with a history file in ~/.histories/projname
(https://github.com/appsmatics/gtsh-hist)
For me the killer feature of atuin is that it allows searching the history of commands executed from the current working directory. Typically I have 10,000 plus commands in history but only a few in the current directory and I tend to run the same complex commands from the same directory.
Does this automatically handle deduplication?
I wonder if the author is aware of McFly. That doesn't have all the features of Atuin that they say they don't want.