I am Japanese. I want to share a well-known Japanese idea: 人は見た目が9割 ("people are judged 90% by appearance"). It is ironic because it goes against our common sense that substance should matter more than appearance. The intention of this idea is to emphasize the importance of first impressions.
I think the AIDMA model is still relevant. I've seen similar dashboards elsewhere, but FUBAR Daily's design keeps me coming back.
The linked article seems to suggest that rather than "appearance" what's actually meant is "anything non-verbal"? In which case the related english language thing to look for is writings on the importance of the non-verbal aspects of communication, of which there are a lot.
Also, why does the linked article (容姿) contain a fully nude image? I don't understand the usefulness or significance (and wouldn't have expected it to be permitted regardless). https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%AE%B9%E5%A7%BF
Yes. I do not understand how an article about physical appearance meaningfully benefits from a nude photo. I thus find myself wondering if the machine translation perhaps lost some important nuance.
I visit HN from RSS feed. Articles are listed on my feed, but I have to click through to really read anything-—there is no summary in the RSS feed.
So I could visit HN directly and prolly save a step. But in truth, I like having one place to go. And here I’ve collected and curated all the places I like to visit. And I find it much better than using bookmarks.
Which is all a lot to say that I’d be more likely to return to visit this site if it had an RSS feed.
Obviously, part of the charm of the site is the telemetry and data widgety bits (weather, stock ticker) which are mixed in with newsy and fun bits (I love the quotes). But I can tell you with all honesty, if I make a bookmark for this site, it’s going into a sea of links.
RSS isn’t just for consuming site data without dealing with the design cruff. It’s also good as a bookmark.
I'll add an RSS feed to the site. Thanks for the feedback. It's kind of MVP at the moment, it's slowly turning into something. I need to add original written content which I will add, just getting the bones in place.
I am going to be adding opinions (OpEds) from myself and guest writers around cultural decay, the decline of the internet, tech news etc. I do not want to make another reddit. I do not want to make another infinite scroll. I do not plan on making money from this. I'll take the hit. The internet is dying, at least I can try and help us before it's completely gone.
Perhaps killing the corporate internet would be. The ability to connect to people from all over the world was improving society at an astronomical rate before virtually everyone was brainwashed by money-making addictive algorithms
Hallucinations galore, the 'daily digest' provided me with this gem: "Apple's supposedly revolutionary $1,199 MacBook Neo is getting schooled by $500
Windows machines that do basically the same thing without the premium"
There is no way to build a Macbook Neo for $1,199 and this is obviously snarky, auto-generated slop.
Critique: The summaries, while amusing, all seem to end partway through on an ellipsis. Why aren't the chaos index signals clickable? The futurism bar also has broken links.
This is almost hopeful in that it softens my lamentation that we're losing a whole generation of engineering labor to AI. It makes me realize that much of it was going to be wasted regardless.
Perhaps it is because I am from a different generation, but I cannot understand what the post you replied even meant.
It makes your response that it cannot be explained meaningfully to most unsuspecting people a little intriguing. Can you try and explain? Perhaps I won't understand, but I feel some of the problem is in the absence of signal.
I'll give it a shot for ya. Parent, GP, GGP, GGGP, OP, or anyone else can feel feel to correct mistakes, please.
Original Post (OP): A post linking to https://www.fubardaily.com/ which is "Curated slop to enjoy with your morning coffee. Updated daily." Apparently a sort of "Drudge Report" or "Dashboard of news/posts".
--> OP MEANING DECODED: There's a big amount of "crappy stories" that a) purport to show "how crappy/dismal things are", probably b) with a healthy amount of "fake stories, or performative artifice, etc."
Great Great Grandparent (GGGP) post said, "front page has racial slurs, a link to goatse, and something crass about trans women. fantastic work /s"
--> GGGP MEANING DECODED: Even the "slop" the OP indexes daily has old-school shennanigans that perennially (every year for decades or forever) are sort of "shock value" or "jarring" things, and in a sense this is refreshing, since those kinds of concerns/topics are worth caring about and relatable or important. (But the GP admits they were being sarcastic. So, really they are saying, the OP's link is a pointless page and a waste to look at.)
Great Grandparent (GGP) post said, "This is almost hopeful in that it softens my lamentation that we're losing a whole generation of engineering labor to AI. It makes me realize that much of it was going to be wasted regardless."
--> GGP MEANING DECODED: The GGP points out that sometimes they are saddened that AI "takes the engineering out of engineering". For example, instead of designing and specifying out and making a thing, an engineer can, now, legitimately, sit down and type (or merely speak) "Make a high level design for _____. Ok, now spec it out. Ok, now make it.". The GP sees LLMs and agents as "taking the engineering out of engineering" since much its rote aspects can be externalized. The GP sees this as a concern, because they imagine that an ENTIRE GENERATION of engineers may learn to "ask a machine to do things for them" that once required knowledge of those things. (Note 1: you can trace this back to "learn C", then back to "learn assembly", then to "learn vacuum tubes", etc.; the lamentation of losing "necessary awareness of how systems work on a fundamental level" is not new. Note 2: it is not unique to software engineering, since as a ____ engineer you may now "draw a thing" but "someone in X country/company will actually make it for you" (outsourcing, again, externalizing "actual" engineering/production). In any case, even if "some people" still know how things work, and design and make those systems, the LABOR MARKET in which people "are paid to do things" could nearly evaporate, and this raises very real concerns or worries of the existential type (very much of the paying for food and shelter in the near future type, or the having a prosperous family ever type). Finally, the GP comes around to heir point that THE THINGS WE PAY PEOPLE TO ENGINEER ARE STUPID THINGS BY AND LARGE ANYWAY, SO IT IS OK TO WIPE OUT THIS LABOR, IT'S A WASTE, WHO CARES IF IT EVAPORATES. While this may sound like nihilism, there is an unwritten portion, which could say, AND MAYBE AT LEAST THIS PASSING OF EVENTS/EVOLUTION IN TECHNOLOGY WILL CONTINUE TO FORCE US TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT IS VALUABLE, AND WHAT TO BUILD AND HOW TO MAKE ACTUAL, FUNCTIONAL, SYSTEMS, AND PUSH US FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET WHERE WE WANT TO BE.
Grandparent (GP) says, "This is 100% true. It's fucking brutal and depressing. But genie is out of the bottle now. Ill was born 1985. It's over."
--> GRANDPARENT MEANING DECODED: Oh yeah, GGP is correct and nails it. And this realization is tough to process and handle. There's no going back, I know it because I have seen some things evolve in my half-life. The way the world once was (what felt like plentiful work of at least some modicum of utility and meaningfulness with truly pleasant human interactions and products and services rendered) is going the way of the dodo (ain't want it used to be and ain't coming back).
Parent says,
--> PARENT MEANING DECODED: I also concur with GGP. Furthermore, many people are too young to know how good it once was, what we had, saw, and experienced, what embodied and encompassed that all. And furthermore, young people process media in a different way than us for the most part and do so with less context, and mostly may never gain have access to knowing what's going on right now and has been or is still in a process of being being lost. And there is an entirely different set of people, who are of our generation, but are totally disconnected from either the white-collar working world, or from the semi-technical fields, and they too have nothing like a grasp on what is occurring and seems destined to continue down an inevitable path of removing meaning from labor, as well as removing the opportunity for much meaningful labor of the types we have known in the past or currently. It is possible to intellectualize and describe painstakingly some or all aspects of these concerns, but most such expressions will be unprocessed by any meaningful proportion of people, for they lack the attention span, or interest, or context for understanding either these facts or their importance to some people.
Note: Cogntive biases appearing heavily above include "declinism", "in those good old days", "rosy retrospect", "conservatism", etc.
NOTE: These are NOT my views, I am just trying to "translate" the chain for the post immediately above.
You have just recounted in a different context, almost the exact lamentation I just got done walking one of my models through last night, minus some cathartic tangents on the subject of instrumental convergence of the corporate world, the tendency of capital to fucking ruin everything the idiots at the top controlling the optimization function touch, and much more lamentation at the apparent inability of the Engineering caste to break out of the Engineering context into a more philosophical one to realize we're letting the business caste lead us to our dooms; specifically dooms of a much more dismal and destructive nature than we'd potentially run into if we realigned our solidarity away from the capital class, and focused on organizing and empowering the labor class. The dooms would at least be pushed out a few generations longer, and it may just redistribute wealth and qualia to a larger subset of the population than whatever we're doing now is.
I am Japanese. I want to share a well-known Japanese idea: 人は見た目が9割 ("people are judged 90% by appearance"). It is ironic because it goes against our common sense that substance should matter more than appearance. The intention of this idea is to emphasize the importance of first impressions.
I think the AIDMA model is still relevant. I've seen similar dashboards elsewhere, but FUBAR Daily's design keeps me coming back.
Nice work.
Appreciate that. Is there an English term to search for and read up on 人は見た目が9割 ? I'd like to learn more about it.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/人は見た目が9割
It is mainly from a bestseller book. You could get hint from this.
The linked article seems to suggest that rather than "appearance" what's actually meant is "anything non-verbal"? In which case the related english language thing to look for is writings on the importance of the non-verbal aspects of communication, of which there are a lot.
Also, why does the linked article (容姿) contain a fully nude image? I don't understand the usefulness or significance (and wouldn't have expected it to be permitted regardless). https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%AE%B9%E5%A7%BF
...have you checked the linked page translation, it's just a page on the concept of physical appearance...
Yes. I do not understand how an article about physical appearance meaningfully benefits from a nude photo. I thus find myself wondering if the machine translation perhaps lost some important nuance.
Thanks!
Thank you for sharing your chinese, it's nice to see some non-anglo on hackernews
In german: Kleider machen Leute. (Clothing makes people(literally, word by word))
in English: "Clothes make the man" is an old saying.
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I visit HN from RSS feed. Articles are listed on my feed, but I have to click through to really read anything-—there is no summary in the RSS feed.
So I could visit HN directly and prolly save a step. But in truth, I like having one place to go. And here I’ve collected and curated all the places I like to visit. And I find it much better than using bookmarks.
Which is all a lot to say that I’d be more likely to return to visit this site if it had an RSS feed.
Obviously, part of the charm of the site is the telemetry and data widgety bits (weather, stock ticker) which are mixed in with newsy and fun bits (I love the quotes). But I can tell you with all honesty, if I make a bookmark for this site, it’s going into a sea of links.
RSS isn’t just for consuming site data without dealing with the design cruff. It’s also good as a bookmark.
I'll add an RSS feed to the site. Thanks for the feedback. It's kind of MVP at the moment, it's slowly turning into something. I need to add original written content which I will add, just getting the bones in place.
This is a project where I actually kind of like the idea, but the implementation looks incredibly soulless.
It really is slop isn’t it.
This is genuinely great. I love the focus and attitude (but of course I do). I might actually use this to keep tabs on things.
I am going to be adding opinions (OpEds) from myself and guest writers around cultural decay, the decline of the internet, tech news etc. I do not want to make another reddit. I do not want to make another infinite scroll. I do not plan on making money from this. I'll take the hit. The internet is dying, at least I can try and help us before it's completely gone.
> The internet is dying, at least I can try and help
help it die? you're using LLMs for the content...
I’m 100% certain that killing the internet would be a greater good for society.
Perhaps killing the corporate internet would be. The ability to connect to people from all over the world was improving society at an astronomical rate before virtually everyone was brainwashed by money-making addictive algorithms
why are you sure?
How's it help?
What is it that makes all these vibe coded websites use the same font? Is there no way to change it?
yes, using skills. ui slop gonna end soon.
Hallucinations galore, the 'daily digest' provided me with this gem: "Apple's supposedly revolutionary $1,199 MacBook Neo is getting schooled by $500 Windows machines that do basically the same thing without the premium"
There is no way to build a Macbook Neo for $1,199 and this is obviously snarky, auto-generated slop.
Relish in it. The whole point is to watch it crumble. On itself. Human writing coming soon.
engagement bot on overdrive
Generally fantastic.
Critique: The summaries, while amusing, all seem to end partway through on an ellipsis. Why aren't the chaos index signals clickable? The futurism bar also has broken links.
This is great.
Feedback: It looks like geolocation for anonymous "FUBARS" is based on IP, but the weather widget uses the browser geolocation API.
I love how share just instantly copies the URL - so refreshingly easy and fast.
Nitpick: MacOS wasn't released first, OS/2 was. Apple System 1, however, was released the earliest.
And some of the questions are redundant because there's no list of already answered questions. I liked the questions though, they were fun to answer.
Nitpick: The "Light Speed Equiv" of the "Voyager 1 Progress Tracker" appears meaningless
Thanks I'll kill it. you're right.
Damn ... I'll be so glad when all this trendy shit goes away.
front page has racial slurs, a link to goatse, and something crass about trans women. fantastic work /s
Kirk Johnson is eternal and his butthole deserves to be seen
(I still have the full 30-something-image set saved from Usenet lol)
>(I still have the full 30-something-image set saved from Usenet lol)
i dont think someone could pay me enough to brag about this, but i love it for you.
Mind sending these to me? I didn't even know there is more than one until now!
Sent — enjoy!
"Thanks"! :>
Now where is my eyebleach...
What about the man transforming into a horse, classic
Why did he post his butthole to Usenet?
I imagine some sort of intersection between https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhibitionism and https://toothpastefordinner.com/051810
Oh wow, it must've gotten much worse than when I looked. I assumed there were filters
This is almost hopeful in that it softens my lamentation that we're losing a whole generation of engineering labor to AI. It makes me realize that much of it was going to be wasted regardless.
It's been lost to Advertising for the longest time already.
Change is as good as a holiday?
This is 100% true. It's fucking brutal and depressing. But genie is out of the bottle now. Ill was born 1985. It's over.
The sad part that I think about is this cannot be explained meaningfully to most unsuspecting people.
Perhaps it is because I am from a different generation, but I cannot understand what the post you replied even meant.
It makes your response that it cannot be explained meaningfully to most unsuspecting people a little intriguing. Can you try and explain? Perhaps I won't understand, but I feel some of the problem is in the absence of signal.
I'll give it a shot for ya. Parent, GP, GGP, GGGP, OP, or anyone else can feel feel to correct mistakes, please.
Original Post (OP): A post linking to https://www.fubardaily.com/ which is "Curated slop to enjoy with your morning coffee. Updated daily." Apparently a sort of "Drudge Report" or "Dashboard of news/posts".
--> OP MEANING DECODED: There's a big amount of "crappy stories" that a) purport to show "how crappy/dismal things are", probably b) with a healthy amount of "fake stories, or performative artifice, etc."
Great Great Grandparent (GGGP) post said, "front page has racial slurs, a link to goatse, and something crass about trans women. fantastic work /s"
--> GGGP MEANING DECODED: Even the "slop" the OP indexes daily has old-school shennanigans that perennially (every year for decades or forever) are sort of "shock value" or "jarring" things, and in a sense this is refreshing, since those kinds of concerns/topics are worth caring about and relatable or important. (But the GP admits they were being sarcastic. So, really they are saying, the OP's link is a pointless page and a waste to look at.)
Great Grandparent (GGP) post said, "This is almost hopeful in that it softens my lamentation that we're losing a whole generation of engineering labor to AI. It makes me realize that much of it was going to be wasted regardless."
--> GGP MEANING DECODED: The GGP points out that sometimes they are saddened that AI "takes the engineering out of engineering". For example, instead of designing and specifying out and making a thing, an engineer can, now, legitimately, sit down and type (or merely speak) "Make a high level design for _____. Ok, now spec it out. Ok, now make it.". The GP sees LLMs and agents as "taking the engineering out of engineering" since much its rote aspects can be externalized. The GP sees this as a concern, because they imagine that an ENTIRE GENERATION of engineers may learn to "ask a machine to do things for them" that once required knowledge of those things. (Note 1: you can trace this back to "learn C", then back to "learn assembly", then to "learn vacuum tubes", etc.; the lamentation of losing "necessary awareness of how systems work on a fundamental level" is not new. Note 2: it is not unique to software engineering, since as a ____ engineer you may now "draw a thing" but "someone in X country/company will actually make it for you" (outsourcing, again, externalizing "actual" engineering/production). In any case, even if "some people" still know how things work, and design and make those systems, the LABOR MARKET in which people "are paid to do things" could nearly evaporate, and this raises very real concerns or worries of the existential type (very much of the paying for food and shelter in the near future type, or the having a prosperous family ever type). Finally, the GP comes around to heir point that THE THINGS WE PAY PEOPLE TO ENGINEER ARE STUPID THINGS BY AND LARGE ANYWAY, SO IT IS OK TO WIPE OUT THIS LABOR, IT'S A WASTE, WHO CARES IF IT EVAPORATES. While this may sound like nihilism, there is an unwritten portion, which could say, AND MAYBE AT LEAST THIS PASSING OF EVENTS/EVOLUTION IN TECHNOLOGY WILL CONTINUE TO FORCE US TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT IS VALUABLE, AND WHAT TO BUILD AND HOW TO MAKE ACTUAL, FUNCTIONAL, SYSTEMS, AND PUSH US FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET WHERE WE WANT TO BE.
Grandparent (GP) says, "This is 100% true. It's fucking brutal and depressing. But genie is out of the bottle now. Ill was born 1985. It's over."
--> GRANDPARENT MEANING DECODED: Oh yeah, GGP is correct and nails it. And this realization is tough to process and handle. There's no going back, I know it because I have seen some things evolve in my half-life. The way the world once was (what felt like plentiful work of at least some modicum of utility and meaningfulness with truly pleasant human interactions and products and services rendered) is going the way of the dodo (ain't want it used to be and ain't coming back).
Parent says,
--> PARENT MEANING DECODED: I also concur with GGP. Furthermore, many people are too young to know how good it once was, what we had, saw, and experienced, what embodied and encompassed that all. And furthermore, young people process media in a different way than us for the most part and do so with less context, and mostly may never gain have access to knowing what's going on right now and has been or is still in a process of being being lost. And there is an entirely different set of people, who are of our generation, but are totally disconnected from either the white-collar working world, or from the semi-technical fields, and they too have nothing like a grasp on what is occurring and seems destined to continue down an inevitable path of removing meaning from labor, as well as removing the opportunity for much meaningful labor of the types we have known in the past or currently. It is possible to intellectualize and describe painstakingly some or all aspects of these concerns, but most such expressions will be unprocessed by any meaningful proportion of people, for they lack the attention span, or interest, or context for understanding either these facts or their importance to some people.
Note: Cogntive biases appearing heavily above include "declinism", "in those good old days", "rosy retrospect", "conservatism", etc.
NOTE: These are NOT my views, I am just trying to "translate" the chain for the post immediately above.
You have just recounted in a different context, almost the exact lamentation I just got done walking one of my models through last night, minus some cathartic tangents on the subject of instrumental convergence of the corporate world, the tendency of capital to fucking ruin everything the idiots at the top controlling the optimization function touch, and much more lamentation at the apparent inability of the Engineering caste to break out of the Engineering context into a more philosophical one to realize we're letting the business caste lead us to our dooms; specifically dooms of a much more dismal and destructive nature than we'd potentially run into if we realigned our solidarity away from the capital class, and focused on organizing and empowering the labor class. The dooms would at least be pushed out a few generations longer, and it may just redistribute wealth and qualia to a larger subset of the population than whatever we're doing now is.
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