I get a lot of value from 1Password but the software quality has fallen.
There was a period of time that 1P would constantly grab window focus on macOS, they must have finally fixed it because after months of it randomly happening I don't think it's happened for at least 4 months. Then there is stuff like adding a new item, the search "Try searching anything", well, at least as long as "Anything" is not the _type_ of new item you want to create...
If I search "API" because I want to create an API key entry it shows be a bunch of worthless suggestions of websites (why would that be useful?) and at the bottom just injects my search term into the name of the 3 top "types" of item you can make. I have to expand it and scroll down to find API Credential. This is maddening to me. In part because of the mocking "Try searching anything", which is just clearly BS, and in part because I find the website search 100% useless and the only thing I care to search on is the types of new 1Password item I might create.
The email I got with individual plan went from $35.88 USD / year to $47.88 USD
The new price then is $4/month. From $3/month. (So still 33% increase, similar to family plan in OP].
I found it very cheap before, which is part of what encouraged me to get it in the first place, vs trying to do something free. Would I have signed up for it originally at this price? I don't know. But it's not enough to make me switch to a competitor now, or try to find a way to do password management for free -- so they predicted succesfully for me that they'd keep me as a customer. Even though annoyed.
Definitely can't go back to having no password management. (I also use it for TOTP and passkey).
If I was on all Apple/iOS, I'd probably just use iCloud. But I need multi-OS-vendor support.
What one actually needs these days is not something one can get a reasonable UX for free for. (unless you only need apple OS's maybe? Or only chrome?). There's really no alternative. I think they realized that, and that they were leaving money on the table. I got 1Passowrd originaly when I needed TOTP, and wanted something that was multi-device and secure, and certainly didn't want to host it myself. I don't know what else I'd use.
Sync requires a server, however server does not see any secret data, it is only used to relay encrypted hash-chained ops log between devices. It's intended to be self-hosting friendly - server is single binary backed by SQLite.
It's project is early-alfa, CLI app, Keepass import and sever/sync work for the most part, there is MacOS app in progress and plans for a iOS app and a browser extension.
Not ready for production and it's not audited.
I'm currently using KeepassXC/Keepasium with Syncting, but I want a better solution - something that supports trouble-free sync natively and allows me to own the system
I'm going to follow your project, it looks good. It's "alpha" btw. I wouldn't usually correct but as you're posting about something you want people to look at you might be interested in a correction.
I do not want to self host either, for exactly the same reasons.
However, I do want to have full control of my secret data beyond the secrets themselves, ideally w/out self hosting, i.e. I want to have crypto-proven control over whom I'm sharing secrets with, I want to have have cryto-level assurance that the service cannot use recovery/escrow mechanism to unlock my secrets data stored on the cloud w/out my consent.
Apple Passwords comes closest to what I want, but it's not cross platform.
> After you set up iCloud for Windows, you can use iCloud Passwords to access your passwords in Google Chrome, Microsoft Edge, or Firefox using a browser extension. You can also manage your passwords in the iCloud Passwords app.
I haven’t use this on Windows, but the Apple Passwords extension on Chromium browsers (maybe all non-Safari browsers) is rather annoying. Every time I launch the browser I need to type in a random 6 digit code to link the session to the extension. As a result, I never actually close my browser and get annoyed when I see there is an update that wants me to restart the app.
similar, keepass synced with google drive. sure it's on some platform, but if my master file is stolen I feel like it taking ~1s and 128MB per guess it's unfeasible for my file to be cracked.
My family pricing went up by 20%, from $59.88 USD to $71.88 per year.
I like 1Password a lot. I've used it for 10 years. It's never lost a single thing, and I don't recall any downtime that impacted me. It's easy to setup and 99% hassle free. Works on my various device types (windows, mac, ios). It supports passkeys and 2FA codes. I like having shared and private vaults. I love the ability to share an auto-expiring, one-time-view link to a password. And the billing is a simple subscription fee.
I could do without some bloat. Watchtower feels like an enterprise need that is otherwise low-value and (by default) noisy for individuals/families. I obviously don't need "AI" forced into my password manager. I didn't love the version 7 to 8 transition that required a new app/extension to be installed. But all of that is really not so bad.
So yeah, I don't feel like I'm getting any additional value that justifies the price increase, but it's still more than worth it for me.
Oh true. Considering inflation, $60 in 2016 is about $80 in 2026 so really the price has gone down in real terms.
(Not actually sure about the price history of the family plan or when family was introduced. I was originally on the individual plan and it was $35 then, and switched to the family plan in 2022. I don’t think prices have changed though)
1Password 8 looks like it was released around 2022. 1Password 7, which seemed to get support until sometime in 2023 supported local vaults and syncing yourself (via Dropbox or whatever).
So it’s really only been about 3 years since people were forced to get accounts with subscriptions, and now it’s going up 33%.
I still have the zip archive of 1Password 7 in my applications folder that the v8 upgrade created. It hasn’t been very long.
From my vault, I can see I got 1Password 7 in 2018. Using 2016 as the price anchor seems generous when subscriptions weren’t required in 2016.
They’ve added a lot of ‘functionality’ but I use none of it. In December I migrated everything out and into Apple’s native Password manager, and cancelled my subscription to 1Password. Just in time, apparently. Subscription models need to die.
I’m absolutely not fine with being a subscriber. Whenever there’s a lifetime license alternative, that goes to the top of my list. I’m not into being somebody’s peon who has to keep paying an unknown fraction of their income to maintain functionality I would’ve broken even on years ago.
I still run Excel 2007 because as long as it can read and write .xlsx files that my Mathematica models can ingest and output I’m good with that. Every version of Mathematica has a perennial license, even if a new version comes out every year. I want the cloud service? That’s a monthly extra, and I’m cool with that. Office 365, where they randomly decide to shove Copilot down my throat and I lose all ability to edit documents I created if I don’t pay the monthly tithe? No, I’m not cool with that.
Yeah, I’m old enough to remember buying boxed software. It was a veritable product in every sense.
Your o365 example just shows that even with stodgy old office suite software, we pay rent to be the product. Copilot has to be added everywhere so a VP will get a promotion showing how many new users they have (for features nobody wants but are forced into paying for)
So… we should just pony up the monthly or yearly fee and let that VP get his promotion because he extorted hundreds of millions in exchange for something about we desirable we Clippy and with the mental capacity of Bob?
I feel like I am really struggling to see the issue here with pricing, it is still a very cheap subscription and it does what we need it to do. And they were one of the ones that came out better in that recent security analysis of password managers. I see a lot of people upset here and I don’t get it.
Did they need to increase the price? Honestly I don’t know, without seeing their financials it is hard to say. But I would much rather they be able to be sustainable.
It likely doesn’t help that they are facing more and more free competition from Google and Apple. I know I have been considering a switch to Apple Passwords after the recent changes to it. I doubt this will excelerate it or anything because I will still want somewhere as a secondary area incase I loose access to my apple account.
I've been a mostly happy 1Password customer with a Family plan for quite some time. This may cause me to jump ship.
My biggest issue with 1Password has been 1) how intrusive it can be in the browser, especially on mobile when it's too proactive to show its dropdown and just gets in the way of my experience. I know this is challenging because a mobile device is a small screen, but it is incredibly frustrating. 2) how bad the Safari extension. It regularly fails to load at all.
Aside from that, while you're absolutely correct - 1Password is still relatively inexpensive, let's look at the improvements thet mention:
1. Automatic saving of logins and payment details
Isn't this what 1Password has always done or am I misunderstanding?
2. Enhanced Watchtower alerts
I haven't seen any of these alerts ever help me.
3. Faster, more secure device setup
This I have noticed. It is very convenient
4. AI-powered item naming
This is weak sauce. I don't care for "AI" to help me name my logins/accounts/etc.
5. Expanded recovery options
I'm not sure what this is and how it's different than what they've always offered on a Family plan.
I was buying a train ticket on Eurostar for my mother. I filled her name as the passenger. Scrolled down and used the 1Password data I have to fill my address and billing information. I proceed and pay. Later, when checking the ticket, I see it's on my name. 1Password changed the passenger details, and since the screen is small, I did not notice.
No 100% refund from Eurostar, but lesson learned.
I'm not leaving 1Password though. It's too convenient for my family.
I’ve had it do stuff like that and it’s very annoying when it’s an issue - which it sometimes is.
That and a lack of easy way to report a login page that doesn’t work perfectly would be my top annoyances (behind a 33% increase in a subscription that was already annoying me each time it came around).
To be honest I'm mostly fine with the price increase (it hasn't been adjusted for inflation in ages), the thing I do take issue with is that for over a year now (with the 'upgrade' to a new web interface) you can't easily create a password etc. anymore straight from the browser extension.
You click the button in the browser, choose what to create 'I want to create a password (or a note, or whatever)' and then get redirected to their web-app and be presented with a pop-up asking what you want to create (I just told you, didn't I?)
I get it, when you move to a new web-app some things can break. But after using stored passwords creating new ones is pretty much the only other thing you do in the app, it seems to be core functionality that's been broken for over a year now, it's kinda madness tbh.
Edit: To be fair they offered a 'solution' when I reported it: "Don't use the web-app, install our desktop app instead."
The manage to find the money to sponsor an F1 team, so I don't think the money is the issue.
Also, if they'd increase things by 5%, or did yearly 2% increases or something like that, I'd be okay with that (to cover the inflation). But the 33% increase combined with the list of features I don't care about -- that's just taking users for granted. Thankfully I didn't start using passkeys, otherwise I'd be locked within 1p without ability to export them.
> Also, if they'd increase things by 5%, or did yearly 2% increases or something like that, I'd be okay with that (to cover the inflation). But the 33% increase combined with the list of features I don't care about -- that's just taking users for granted
The price has been unchanged at least as far back as mid 2018. According to the inflation calculator at bls.gov [1] inflation over those 8 years was 31%.
In a world where everything is increasing in prices and salaries aren't keeping pace, you might be able to see it if you imagine what life was like making much less money.
1Password, like other subscriptions, becomes something for the middle class and up, not for the masses.
> I will still want somewhere as a secondary area incase I loose access to my apple account
I'm quite content with Apple's Password app but I pay for 1Password only for the peace of mind of having a backup in case Apple ever locks my account. I will suck it up and pay the higher price.
Part of my migration plan from 1Password to Apple Passwords is making sure I have all the account recovery options possible.
I had risks with 1Password as well. If my house were to burn down, and my phone was also inside, I’d lose it all. I have offsite backups, but I need 1Password to get into them.
In China the median hourly wage is somewhere between 4 and 6 USD, whereas in India where most employment is ‘informal’ estimates of the median wage vary from about 50 cents to 1 USD an hour.
So to cover those twelve dollars, the average Chinese worker will have to work three to four more hours a year just to have the same functionality, whereas the Indian average worker will have to work twelve to 24 more hours a year.
I've had good experiences with KeePassXC. In addition to being able to store your passwords, it can ingest TOTP seeds. And finally, it's open source and cross platform. (I originally stumbled upon it because it was the only KeePass implementation that tried to look like a native MacOS app)
This is a killer feature for me, since apparently iOS backups do not backup your TOTP generators in Google Authenticator, which I discovered after I wiped my phone and restored it thinking I was perfectly safe doing so given I had a backup.
I now encourage all the folks I mentor to set up a KeePass vault for the TOTP seeds.
There's even an option to generate one of those fancy QR codes that apps like authenticator can use, so the two are not mutually exclusive.
If you're an individual, not an enterprise user, I don't see why anyone would pay for a password manager.
I use both (for different purposes) and prefer the native app (and KeePassDX on Android), but note that it is a local app and doesn't sync. You need to use something else (eg. Syncthing or Dropbox) for that.
It's a shame that the free/cheap password managers that regular people would use (like those by Apple, Google) seem unwilling to loosen their platform lock-in, and others like 1Password mainly target business use and are too expensive for the average joe to bother. So decades and dozens of new auth standards later we are still in a place where people use the same password on all accounts and write it down on post-its.
The industry has collectively spent untold billions/trillions on cybersecurity over the years, while the best way to actually secure access would be to have a free, preinstalled, interoperable password manager that "just works".
> It's a shame that the free/cheap password managers that regular people would use (like those by Apple, Google) seem unwilling to loosen their platform lock-in, and others like 1Password mainly target business use and are too expensive for the average joe to bother. So decades and dozens of new auth standards later we are still in a place where people use the same password on all accounts and write it down on post-its.
1Password used to be great for personal use and you could sync your vault with Dropbox or Synchings or whatever. I'm sad they stopped selling "forever" licenses and supporting local sync and went the SaaS route.
It's a shame that the free/cheap password managers that regular people would use (like those by Apple, Google) seem unwilling to loosen their platform lock-in
How do you mean? You can export your passwords from the Apple app:
If the main use case is shared team secrets (API keys, tokens, .env equivalents), there are team-secrets-specific tools worth considering as alternatives:
- KeyEnv (keyenv.dev) — CLI-first secrets manager, syncs across team via CLI. Works like .env but centralized and access-controlled. No per-seat pricing.
- Doppler — More full-featured, team-friendly
- Infisical — Open source option with self-host
1Password is great for passwords/logins. For dev team secrets specifically (API keys, CI tokens), a purpose-built tool often fits better since you get CLI integration, per-project scoping, and environment-level access control.
Depends on your ratio of "password manager" vs "secrets manager" usage.
My issue is that quality has noticeably dropped over the years. I can’t justify paying more while the core functionality is getting worse. It’s been going downhill since the launch of v8. I sung its praises for many years (I’ve been using it for 18 years), but that mostly stopped after v8 was released.
I kept going with it because I thought being platform agnostic with my password manager was important. But with them taking on all these investors, watching quality drop, and now that they have everyone migrated to subscriptions… raising prices rather significantly. I’m done. I have a feeling this is just the tip of the iceberg.
I login/unlock my password manager maybe...a dozen times a week and that would be a high count when I'm doing "business" and logging in for financial things.
I just wrote up my migration plan. This is going to be very painful.
Step 1 is deleting accounts I don’t use anymore. I did 2 of them today. One required an email, another required a phone call. Both were rather painful, but at least I was able to get them done within the day. I have 320 accounts left to go through.
I have been wanting to reign in my digital footprint, so I guess this is a good excuse, it’s just very difficult. Last year I tried to delete a PSN account (I have 2 of them). I waited on hold with Sony for 45 minutes for them to just hang up on me. I also got caught in captcha hell a few times.
I also have to be willing to let things ago. I found an old Zinio account. I assumed the company would be dead (digital magazines), but they are still going, my account still works, and I have dozens of magazines in there I purchased 15 years ago when the iPad launched. Do I keep it around just incase, or let it go… there are going to be a lot of things like this. I almost feel like I need to take time off work to deal with this.
There is no reason for this increase except the fact that they know people are too lazy to migrate away.
They're not wrong. I'm a geeky guy with a tech resume as long as your arm, and I'd really rather do something else beside research how to export 1PWD data to something else, then import to $TOOL_OF_CHOICE. I'm sure it's not all that hard, and maybe that's part of the problem: it's monkey work, not an interesting technical challenge, right up there with "clean the gutters".
You can export the vault data (one export per vault) in a format that is largely supported by other password software to import. It's annoying but not terrible.
> Action needed: Please go to my.1password.com/billing to register your approval. If you do not provide consent by your next renewal date on or after March 27, 2026, your subscription will automatically be cancelled at time of your next renewal
Apparently you get auto-cancelled if you don't manually accept the price increase?
Wasn't mentioned on mine, either (Ohio, United States). My subscription is through in-app purchase, so I'm assuming that'll go through Apple's usual "your subscription price is increasing" flow.
Doesn't seem to be EU related. I'm in The Netherlands, using the .eu servers from 1Password and the email I got just says:
> The new price will take effect at your next renewal, provided it’s on or after <date>. Those occurring prior to <date>, will continue at the current pricing until your next renewal.
Same here in Switzerland. The instructions in the email say to confirm the price change under my.1password.com/billing but I don't see any confirmation options on that page. So i'm assuming my account will just be canceled ^^
what's interesting is that the email I received did not contain this part. Maybe it's the billing address and laws? Mine is in the Washington State, US.
If everyone goes to their subscriptions and cancels today maybe they'll get the message.
I've done it, and will spend the rest of the current renewal figuring out how well Apple Passwords works, I guess.
I'd like to sync everything but realistically I just need to extract any 2FA I have left in 1p; everything else can be password reset when the time cometh.
I stopped using 1Password for personal stuff and switched to just Apple Passwords about a year ago so I can add a little colour to what to expect.
Firstly, the Apple Passwords app is slow as molasses, just really really bad. If you've got more than about 1000 items, it's almost unusable. That said, you very rarely have to use it, because password entry in Safari is perfect, and the menubar app for it doesn't have the same slowness problems.
One big gotcha though is that Apple Passwords thinks site1.example.com and site2.example.com are the same site. So if you log into site1, it notices that the password you used isn't the password for site2 and offers to update it. If you click yes, it will overwrite the password stored against every subdomain of example.com - if you need to use multiple Sentry accounts, this is very problematic.
Finally, password entry in other browsers is less than perfect. There's an extension for Firefox but it's clunky, and the experience is even worse in Orion. Don't know about Chrome as I don't like to have spyware on my computer.
It's possible to make them autofill, yes, but it's the dialog that asks you if you want to update the password stored for example.com after you autofill, that's the gotcha. That one will set the password for every *.example.com password you have stored, to the one you just used.
edit: Ooops, just realised you were responding about 1Password, sorry.
Apple Passwords works very well (as somebody who has fully migrated to it for password storage and OTP functionality). There’s a bit of a hassle because Apple has much simpler data structures currently, but you can bet that they’re working to enhance the record types they support because it’s such an easy win.
A commenter here recently just asked me if I have considered BitWarden due to my gripes with KeePass. KeePass cannot rent-seek off my passwords. You can of course host BitWarden, but the official software can always get worse (see Minio). Thankfully we have community run versions of the BitWarden server (VaultWarden), whereas 1password customers are left to dry. There just isn't any money in personal password managers, and restricting features like TOTP (BitWarden free tier) rarely entices the average person to get a paid plan.
This is useful enough for a family of 4 with teenagers who have a lot of logins that I don't mind the price. I'm not going to deal with self-hosting to save $1/month. My time is worth more than that.
I'd like to switch to Bitwarden, but my singular focus is on security. I trust 1P because of its reputation in the security community. Does Bitwarden have any drawbacks when compared to 1P, security-wise?
Just cancelled my subscription, which was due for renewal a few days after the change takes effect. I can live with vaults being read-only while I find a (self-hosted) alternative.
I'm a 15+ year user of 1password and have been telling myself to move off of it for like 5 years now. It ain't the price... $72 is really fine for good software that just works.
But as mentioned throughout the thread it's really just too much. My goodness they really could have a nice, profitable, business with simple software. I'd happily pay $10/month for the version of 1password from 15 years ago! It's just all too much.
The VC treadmill ruined what should be a simple, sustainable business. They’re not going to light the world on fire trying to pedal a password manager as the be all and end all IAM story for enterprises. It’s not the amount of the increase. It’s that they’re chasing enterprise for VC unicorn status and clearly intending to leave their original market behind. I don’t want my passwords in a product becoming more and more derelict since the org’s heart is in another place.
Very disappointed by this. I've been a customer for many, many years on a Family plan, but I do not understand this price raise. The only reason they raise price is definitely because of the need to answer to investors, and the necessary enshitification that follows. While I understand every business needs to generate revenues, they put on us, the customers, the burden of their rapid hiring spree and growing operating costs. It's just sad. There is just so much you can charge for managing passwords, and the family plan becomes way too expensive for the value it truly provides. We will need to switch to a less expensive competitor.
I checked with their "AI chat" about whether I could lock in current prices by renewing early but they said they would not allow this. I'm kind of surprised that there is no option to do this (I see Jetbrains as an example of a company which makes this very easy)
I've been a 1password customer for many years, so I'm a bit bummed out about this.
A very recent frustration from them was this: https://x.com/youyuxi/status/2005904473332564339?s=20 - their Chrome extension was breaking code block rendering on a lot of websites for weeks.
The issue had already been reported in their community forum, but it didn’t seem to gain much traction until Evan You mentioned it publicly on Twitter. Only then did it feel like it was taken seriously.
That experience, combined with a ~33% price increase, makes the direction a bit concerning, and feels like it’s going in a down hill...
That said, it’s genuinely difficult to move my family off 1Password. I just wish there are stronger competitors.
Their Linux app crashes half the time trying to launch, and I have to resort to the browser app. It's been like this for at least the 1 year I've been a customer. And, Their browser app also has a horrendous impact on browser performance. I always thought Firefox was just kind of slow..but it was 1password bogging it down all along.
The haven't raised the price of the individual plan in at least 8 years. It is now going up 33%.
Inflation calculated from the CPI over the last 8 years in the US was 31%, which is fuzzy enough that it should be considered approximately equal to 33%.
I think it’s the steep adjustment in price more than anything else. Raising prices 3% every year is perceived quite differently than raising it 20-33% once.
I've been using 1Password (family version to share some subset within the family) for more than 10 years now, but I have to say the user experience has degraded quite a bit. Anyone have a better overall alternative? (Doesn't necessarily have to be cheaper.)
Using Enpass, migrated from 1Password when in need of a Linux client some 10years ago. As early user I was grandfathered into a free lifetime account and eventually was required to pay a discounted lifetime fee $70 through Apple, which I’m fine with, it’s Indian developers need to pay their rent too.
Enpass has all features I need, on all platforms including iOS. It syncs using the api of one of the free storage providers, WebDAV or even over WiFi. Having some 600 entries and a few attachments (copy of ID Cards etc) and never had any performance issues. Nor issues with subdomains. Regular updates, most recently added PRF (Pseudo-Random Function) for passkeys. It lacks a command line client, which I can live with. Nor does it support the fingerprint reader on Linux, instead has a pin option for quick unlocking.
I've used 1PWD for at least as long as you, and when renewal comes around (EDIT: oops, guess I never "upgraded" to subscription plan) I'm going to cancel and just stick with Apple's Passwords app (née Keychain Access). First "cloud!", subscriptions, now 33% price increases for the hell of it, I'm outta here, 1PWD. (Though in looking just now, we never upgraded to v8.0, so I guess I'm already outta here.)
I only suggest Passwords because if you've used 1PWD for that long, odds are good you're on Apple HW/OS. It does everything we need in our household, including shared creds. One of these days I'll get off me arse and export the 1PWD stuff (IIRC, 1PWD->Apple PWDs is doable). Right now we use 1PWD as R/O, and all new stuff goes in Passwords.
I'd say it's mainly to do with browser/iOS plugins not being responsive. I find myself often resorting to opening the app and copying and pasting the password or other info because autofill function doesn't work on different websites.
Otherwise minor UI things like categories on the sidebar which made it easy to navigate, but they got rid of it a while back.
I doubt it. But I keep my own encrypted backup anyway (as I did with 1P, too), so realistically only the most recently added/updated passwords are at risk.
First, all your passwords are locked behind the same passcode you use to log-in. You cannot set different password to unlock the passwords. Anyone who saw your iphone passcode or macbook’s password can not only onlock the device but get access to all the passwords as they are behind the same passcode.
Second, what would happen if you were locked out of apple id account? Or don’t have access to apple hardware.
Password manager should really be platform and device agnostic.
That’s why people used stuff like 1password in the first place.
You really don’t want to put all your life into a single account (that’s why you should not use sign with google or what have you).
What do subscription password managers do compared to free managers, such as keepass + device-to-device synchronization, so that people are willing to pay even 1 penni, let alone $72?
I’m really disappointed by this. I’ve been a 1Password user for 18 years.
Over the last several years, since they moved to Electron for the main app, things have gotten worse and worse. The browser extension doesn’t work half the time. In addition to being frustrating, that makes it a less secure system, as one of the benefits is that it only fills the password on the specified domain. A lack of reliability of the extension leaves people more vulnerable to phishing, since they have to copy/paste passwords out of the app.
The features they list, I don’t care about. AI item naming? What? It already automatically named things pretty well without AI. It feels like they just want to use the hot buzz word.
A password manager should be a fairly boring utility. It should be secure, stable, reliable for the long-haul. These ideas are incompatible with taking on investments from a bunch of celebrities.
When I heard about them taking on investors I was worried. Password managers create a fair amount of lock-in, and now they’re starting the squeeze, while failing to deliver on the basic functionality I want out of a password manager… filling passwords in the browser.
It seems like I’ll need to migrate over the next 5 months. I was hoping this day would never come, as it was mostly a good 18 years. I recommended 1Password to a lot of people over the years.
While I don’t want to move to a password manager that will create vendor lock-in, I will probably end up going to Apple Passwords.
> In addition to being frustrating, that makes it a less secure system, as one of the benefits is that it only fills the password on the specified domain. A lack of reliability of the extension leaves people more vulnerable to phishing, since they have to copy/paste passwords out of the app.
The latest updates have it prompting me every time I auto fill to approve filing on the site.
Click OK to fill your 1Password item on news.ycombinator.com
I'm dumbstruck by this. I want you to reject it if it's not the right site, not ask me to verify the site by hand every time...
I haven’t received this update yet, but it sounds like they no longer understand what business they’re in.
I wish in addition to WatchTower they had a way to identify sites that no longer exist. I want to clean things up before I migrate—delete logins for dead companies, delete accounts on sites I no longer use, etc. Some tools to help with that would be much more useful than the new features they actually added. These are tools I’ve wanted/needed for a long time now. I have over 300 logins in 1Password, and that’s after I’ve already done a few manual efforts to cleanup in the past (277 items already archived).
This might be where they could actually add AI in a useful way, instead of item naming. Ping the URLs periodically to see if they are still alive. If they’re dead, have the AI do a little research to see if the site is just down or the company went under… and maybe try to find out if there is any information on how the data was handled upon company closure. For dead sites, consolidate all that information into a section of the app for vault pruning and maintenance. Make it easy to archive all this old stuff and feel good about it. In addition to this, surface how to delete account data on each site I have a login for. There are websites for this, why doesn’t 1Password pull that type of information in to make cleanup easy. Deleting an account that is no longer needed is safer than rotating the password periodically or when I had been breached and shows in WatchTower. These sites store more than just password data that gets taken, deletion is always better.
Maybe they don’t care, because few accounts are as old as mine, but these are the types of things I’d expect from a tool for power users vs all the free options out there. There is a lot of competition in this space now, and if they don’t want to be old-reliable, they could at least be useful.
Lately their Windows client has been consistently crashing for me when it tries to auto-run on a fresh boot. It always works the second time, but still, how about getting your shit together before dropping a 30% price increase.
I’ve always had fine experiences with 1Password both on iPhone and my Mac. With how bad Windows 11 is and continues to be, I wonder if your ire is misdirected.
On my work computer (Windows) I’ve had a plethora of stability issues across a variety of programs/applications including ones developed by Microsoft.
I despise what 1Password has become. They've spent the past 10 years removing everything that made it great, and becoming increasingly user hostile. And now this. Well they can fuck off. This is great timing though as only the other day I was researching the alternatives - current front runners are Passbolt [0], Hypervault [1] and Heylogin [2]. If anyone has personal experience with any of these I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Feel free to try out heylogin and let me what you think of it. I know we don't have feature parity with 1pw, but we try to innovate on the core user experience of logging into websites first. Our typical users are non-IT people, but more and more features are now implemented to also cater IT pros.
Thanks for popping by! Feature parity with 1Password would actually count against you, it's so bloated with stuff only huge enterprises need now, and all its best features have been removed over the last few years. I checked our 1Password billing and it seems we're paid up until Dec 2027, so if you've got good passkey support by then you may well have a new customer.
passkey support is currently in internal beta, but will be released soon.
what kind of features have been removed from 1pw that you considered important?
Oh man, I don't think that essay would fit in a HN comment. The biggest one for me though was keyboard operation - I have fine motor control problems so try to use the trackpad as little as possible. 1Password used to have two different global keyboard shortcuts, one for the regular autofill interface and another that would pop up a mini version of 1Password that was fully keyboard navigable and could do almost everything the full 1Password app could do. I could hit Cmd+Opt+\ from anywhere and then entirely through keyboard interactions do almost anything I needed to do. This has been replaced by one global keyboard shortcut that only works if your focussed app is a browser with a login screen on it, and even then it often needs hitting multiple times in order for the interface to appear, and sometimes never appears at all until you finally give up and launch the 1Password app, and then magically you get the 1Password app with the 1Password mini interface over the top of it. It's one of the most frustrating experiences imaginable when it used to be such a useful thing.
Thanks, that's interesting. We don't see all the smaller changes our competitors are doing.
With heylogin, you could try our Quick Access feature. It pops up with a global shortcut and is fully keyboard navigable. Let me know if something is missing there.
I'm also open to suggestions for other options. I'm more than happy to pay for a good product, which 1Password was when I first started paying them. Must be team focussed, work with any browser, and if it's not Electron I'll pay extra.
1password is by far my most recommended subscription to friends and family.
In a world where almost every single app or service I use has thrown me into a rage from enshittification or show-stopping bugs or both, where I can hardly even type this message because even iOS keyboards have regressed… 1password is actually a great service that makes my life objectively better.
I put them in an exclusive S-Tier with, surprisingly, Chase Mobile (in recent years), Signal, Google Sheets, and maybe an few others. They just work.
Since the rest of them ignore my 1 star App Store reviews and my desperate, detailed bug reports, the only power I have left is to support good software and recommend it to friends.
My experience has been the opposite, they have become worse and worse since the early days when they were small Mac shop with a standalone app. It's really death by a thousand papercuts now. Sometimes it cannot fill a password, sometimes it loses the connection between the browser plugin and the native app and doesn't really fill anything at all anymore, the interface sucks compared to the native Mac version, etc.
The only reason I have not migrated away is that my wife and daughter also use it (1Password Family) and it seems like a huge task to properly migrate the hundreds of passwords, tens of passkeys, etc. Maybe this is the final straw.
What banking tasks are you doing that other apps don't seem to handle -- are you trading stocks or something?
I basically never use a banking app except to deposit a check (which all the various apps seem to handle well now) or transfer money from the checking account that receives my direct deposit to the account I use at ATMS. (Love that air gap).
Really? To me that app is like the WeChat of banking. It just does so many things. Do not even get my started on the non-standard long totp that they force you to enter when trying to navigate certain parts of the app (you're already authed, why reauth?!).
I think the Schwab app-for doing as many things as the Chase app, is a much smoother experience.
I stopped my 1Password subscription last year and started using Apple Passwords. The user experience is great if you switch to Safari with fingerprint login.
Using icloud passwords is more sensible. it's free and available on windows and other mac devices. In fact, opting for an icloud+ subscription at $1 a month is hard to resist. 1Password is secure but expensive
If you are looking for an alternative take a look at Psono. It's open source, only sold B2B so it's free for individuals. It's made in Germany, so a European alternative to the US solutions. It has all the typical features with browser extensions and apps for android and iOS.
Enshittification strikes again. For a normal user, the software seems to be getting worse and more cumbersome, and the company seems to continue focusing solely on pushing business- and enterprise-centric features that I have no use for. They'd do well to offer a non-pro type subscription for users who don't want all of that. Instead, though, I and a lot of others will simply be canceling.
I’ve been using it for 18 years. It’s significantly worse than it used to be in terms of basic reliability. I was already debating a move, but didn’t really want to. This price hike, in the context of all the investors they took on, just seals the deal.
They still don't have support for recovery codes and links to secrets between vaults... Their Chrome extension stopped working for most websites, especially for credit cards! The Electron app is using plenty of RAM.
Yeah, pretty disappointed by this as well. The app has been getting buggier overtime and I was already considering leaving, so this was the push I needed.
Seems like the most popular players in this space are Bitwarden and KeePass, does anybody have a positive or negative experience to share with either?
I don't like Bitwarden UI/UX. It looks not really polished. Especially the "folders" are akward. How the implemented it, calling them labels and designing them like labels would make way more sense. But the whole UI looks like software developers - and not designers - built it.
I think I tried using it maybe 4 years ago or so, and I had the same feeling. It just felt.. awkward to use, lots of friction. I was hoping it had changed by now, but I guess that hasn't happened.
Bitwarden is a shit product lacking basic niceties: search is terrible (substring match is beyond first page of results), UI is sometimes non-async (typing freezes search), no way to sort by newest/date added, no way to make two note (textarea) fields, no way to expand it, consumes memory and CPU etc
However, it’s open-source, cross platform and sorta works.
It's been little things and mainly usability/polish things.
Sometimes the vault doesn't unlock and I have to enter in my password 2-3 times.
It doesn't always capture all information from a page properly when creating a new login and there are additional fields to capture.
The "detecting if a website supports key passes and one time password" feature for Watchtower was overwhelming with lots of information, until I clicked each one and had to ignore it.
These reasons alone are not enough for me to leave, the 3 big problems are below.
1 - I was feeling more uncomfortable having websites promote using passkeys, and I would store that in 1Password, but then I wasn't sure if 1Password as going to make it easy to migrate that stuff out. So, I want to use something open source, so I don't have to worry about losing access/managing that stuff in a propertiery/closed product. It might be easy to export/migrate out today, until something changes and they no longer allow that or make it very difficult/hard to scale/automate.
2 - I have a strong feeling this price increase is being justified by "AI" somehow. I'm sure, like all other companies, 1Password is internally forcing/requiring its developers to use coding models, and sonnet, opus, etc are expensive to use and the cost adds up. Also, I don't like the direction of where things are headed, where people are becoming more relaxed and not reviewing code properly and merging in code that will cause security issues later (perhaps openclaw fits into this bucket) or they are taking open-source code they laundering it for companies internally to use (I can't prove this, but if a model is trained on public data/code, it seems very likely). Something about that just bothers me especially when a company is worth billions of dollars.
3 - I've spent the last 3 years building up my homelab and using Pikapods for hosting various things. I want to support open-source more and run my own things and pay supporters properly to maintain things. I've always been a bit nervous what might happen if 1Password gets hacked, either because of poor security or due to a third party vendor. I still have the problem of my things getting hacked, but I pay more attention to how I secure things and use Tailscale and not publish things on the broad internet (when it makes sense). Also, I would be a hypocrite to dismiss the value of coding llms, as I'm using them myself. But how I'm using them, I'm using them to do security reviews of my docker compose files or kubernetes yaml files. Having coding llms has made it so much easier to maintain a homelab.
Personally I've had issues with Windows Hello integration for a while. It worked for a while but then didn't anymore. Everything is right and best I could find was the team saying it's some weird issue with TPM. Once I put in my master password the Hello integration is fine. It's just storing the key in TPM that doesn't work. So every restart I need to put in the master password. Granted my desktop is a Ryzen 2 system but still.
I think 20/yr is low enough and much cheaper than 1p anyway, so it seems fine to me. I have already cancelled my yearly 1p password subscription and will use the next couple of months to get familiar with bitwarden before the full switch.
The 1Password app(s) have never been buggier or more frustrating to use. App UIs have never been more convoluted.
Enshittification comes for us all, sadly, even something like this that has largely been indispensable for me and my family for so long now.
Not sure what to say, because Bitwarden is worse at everything and nothing else is even worth mentioning based on what I know. Great example of something I’ll stay with for now simply because there are no better alternatives on the market.
PS - listing AI auto naming of items as an improvement got a genuine laugh out of me.
I don't mind the increase per-se, but the "improvements" they advertise to justify it are laughable. Not to mention that 1Password 8 has been a major downgrade across the board.
Got the same. Kind of a bummer to see “AI powered item naming”. Who needs this shit? Hope the price increase is not to cover their useless AI spendings. Otherwise I’m happy with 1Password.
Will they fix the Chrome extension for this price increase or do I have to wait ~1 hour for it to sync or restart the browser? Check the rating of the extension compared to all others. It is shit, it has been shit for 1+ year.
Not stoked but it's the first since I've joined. Not an insane jump. Seeing Bitwarden go up had me wondering. It's still the best all rounder password manager I've used. Has everything and does it all really well. If Bitwarden could integrate their Reports feature into the app that might be a compelling reason to come back.
yeah, honestly i'm baffled... don't they have a whole team for marketing and communications? it's a slap in a customer's face... i've been on this subscription for 9 years, and now with enshittification, scott galloway, rutger bregman and cory doctorow all shouting off the roofs to cancel US-based subscriptions it's like no one on their public comms team is reading the room; like at all.
and on top of that they added this joke of a list of features supposed to justify the decision... as if i had previously been asked about if i'd want "AI-powered item naming. wow, what a shitshow.
Too bad they took VC funding and have to be a "global leader in identity security" instead of just making a damn good password manager.
https://1password.com/press/2025/nov/1password-strengthens-l...
VC and PE money always there ruining the good things. Taking money from the devil.
I get a lot of value from 1Password but the software quality has fallen.
There was a period of time that 1P would constantly grab window focus on macOS, they must have finally fixed it because after months of it randomly happening I don't think it's happened for at least 4 months. Then there is stuff like adding a new item, the search "Try searching anything", well, at least as long as "Anything" is not the _type_ of new item you want to create...
If I search "API" because I want to create an API key entry it shows be a bunch of worthless suggestions of websites (why would that be useful?) and at the bottom just injects my search term into the name of the 3 top "types" of item you can make. I have to expand it and scroll down to find API Credential. This is maddening to me. In part because of the mocking "Try searching anything", which is just clearly BS, and in part because I find the website search 100% useless and the only thing I care to search on is the types of new 1Password item I might create.
Video: https://cs.joshstrange.com/jFqYXC8q
The email I got with individual plan went from $35.88 USD / year to $47.88 USD
The new price then is $4/month. From $3/month. (So still 33% increase, similar to family plan in OP].
I found it very cheap before, which is part of what encouraged me to get it in the first place, vs trying to do something free. Would I have signed up for it originally at this price? I don't know. But it's not enough to make me switch to a competitor now, or try to find a way to do password management for free -- so they predicted succesfully for me that they'd keep me as a customer. Even though annoyed.
Definitely can't go back to having no password management. (I also use it for TOTP and passkey).
If I was on all Apple/iOS, I'd probably just use iCloud. But I need multi-OS-vendor support.
What one actually needs these days is not something one can get a reasonable UX for free for. (unless you only need apple OS's maybe? Or only chrome?). There's really no alternative. I think they realized that, and that they were leaving money on the table. I got 1Passowrd originaly when I needed TOTP, and wanted something that was multi-device and secure, and certainly didn't want to host it myself. I don't know what else I'd use.
I'm building an alternative called Lockstep: KeePass-like local-first password vault but with build sync https://github.com/lockstepvault-hq/lockstep
Sync requires a server, however server does not see any secret data, it is only used to relay encrypted hash-chained ops log between devices. It's intended to be self-hosting friendly - server is single binary backed by SQLite.
It's project is early-alfa, CLI app, Keepass import and sever/sync work for the most part, there is MacOS app in progress and plans for a iOS app and a browser extension.
Not ready for production and it's not audited.
I'm currently using KeepassXC/Keepasium with Syncting, but I want a better solution - something that supports trouble-free sync natively and allows me to own the system
I'm going to follow your project, it looks good. It's "alpha" btw. I wouldn't usually correct but as you're posting about something you want people to look at you might be interested in a correction.
That sounds awesome, and I personally want to self-host nothing. I do enough of that at work.
I do not want to self host either, for exactly the same reasons.
However, I do want to have full control of my secret data beyond the secrets themselves, ideally w/out self hosting, i.e. I want to have crypto-proven control over whom I'm sharing secrets with, I want to have have cryto-level assurance that the service cannot use recovery/escrow mechanism to unlock my secrets data stored on the cloud w/out my consent.
Apple Passwords comes closest to what I want, but it's not cross platform.
https://support.apple.com/guide/icloud-windows/set-up-icloud...
> After you set up iCloud for Windows, you can use iCloud Passwords to access your passwords in Google Chrome, Microsoft Edge, or Firefox using a browser extension. You can also manage your passwords in the iCloud Passwords app.
Could be worth a try.
I haven’t use this on Windows, but the Apple Passwords extension on Chromium browsers (maybe all non-Safari browsers) is rather annoying. Every time I launch the browser I need to type in a random 6 digit code to link the session to the extension. As a result, I never actually close my browser and get annoyed when I see there is an update that wants me to restart the app.
Android? :)
I use passwordsafe https://pwsafe.org/
Sync the file to Dropbox. Available on all my devices. 2fa protection in password safe - yubi + password.
This is probably not the most secure system in the world but I've been using it for 10+ years. And it's free.
similar, keepass synced with google drive. sure it's on some platform, but if my master file is stolen I feel like it taking ~1s and 128MB per guess it's unfeasible for my file to be cracked.
My main worry is some software dependency in password safe is compromised and my passwords are hoovered up while I have the file open!
Bitwarden, keepass
My family pricing went up by 20%, from $59.88 USD to $71.88 per year.
I like 1Password a lot. I've used it for 10 years. It's never lost a single thing, and I don't recall any downtime that impacted me. It's easy to setup and 99% hassle free. Works on my various device types (windows, mac, ios). It supports passkeys and 2FA codes. I like having shared and private vaults. I love the ability to share an auto-expiring, one-time-view link to a password. And the billing is a simple subscription fee.
I could do without some bloat. Watchtower feels like an enterprise need that is otherwise low-value and (by default) noisy for individuals/families. I obviously don't need "AI" forced into my password manager. I didn't love the version 7 to 8 transition that required a new app/extension to be installed. But all of that is really not so bad.
So yeah, I don't feel like I'm getting any additional value that justifies the price increase, but it's still more than worth it for me.
You mean they didn't increase prices in 10 years? A 2016 dollar is not the same thing as a 2026 dollar
Oh true. Considering inflation, $60 in 2016 is about $80 in 2026 so really the price has gone down in real terms.
(Not actually sure about the price history of the family plan or when family was introduced. I was originally on the individual plan and it was $35 then, and switched to the family plan in 2022. I don’t think prices have changed though)
1Password 8 looks like it was released around 2022. 1Password 7, which seemed to get support until sometime in 2023 supported local vaults and syncing yourself (via Dropbox or whatever).
So it’s really only been about 3 years since people were forced to get accounts with subscriptions, and now it’s going up 33%.
I still have the zip archive of 1Password 7 in my applications folder that the v8 upgrade created. It hasn’t been very long.
From my vault, I can see I got 1Password 7 in 2018. Using 2016 as the price anchor seems generous when subscriptions weren’t required in 2016.
They’ve added a lot of ‘functionality’ but I use none of it. In December I migrated everything out and into Apple’s native Password manager, and cancelled my subscription to 1Password. Just in time, apparently. Subscription models need to die.
Subscriptions are fine, companies are greedy
I’m absolutely not fine with being a subscriber. Whenever there’s a lifetime license alternative, that goes to the top of my list. I’m not into being somebody’s peon who has to keep paying an unknown fraction of their income to maintain functionality I would’ve broken even on years ago.
Its not a black and white situation for me
Security software? Hosting my data? Sure, I understand there are ongoing costs to provide the service.
One-time licenses tells me the maintainers will not be incentivized to keep my lights on forever. Service will suffer eventually.
See Plex. I paid once a decade ago and it’s not even the same thing anymore. They push live TV, always online features, etc
I still run Excel 2007 because as long as it can read and write .xlsx files that my Mathematica models can ingest and output I’m good with that. Every version of Mathematica has a perennial license, even if a new version comes out every year. I want the cloud service? That’s a monthly extra, and I’m cool with that. Office 365, where they randomly decide to shove Copilot down my throat and I lose all ability to edit documents I created if I don’t pay the monthly tithe? No, I’m not cool with that.
Yeah, I’m old enough to remember buying boxed software. It was a veritable product in every sense.
Your o365 example just shows that even with stodgy old office suite software, we pay rent to be the product. Copilot has to be added everywhere so a VP will get a promotion showing how many new users they have (for features nobody wants but are forced into paying for)
So… we should just pony up the monthly or yearly fee and let that VP get his promotion because he extorted hundreds of millions in exchange for something about we desirable we Clippy and with the mental capacity of Bob?
I feel like I am really struggling to see the issue here with pricing, it is still a very cheap subscription and it does what we need it to do. And they were one of the ones that came out better in that recent security analysis of password managers. I see a lot of people upset here and I don’t get it.
Did they need to increase the price? Honestly I don’t know, without seeing their financials it is hard to say. But I would much rather they be able to be sustainable.
It likely doesn’t help that they are facing more and more free competition from Google and Apple. I know I have been considering a switch to Apple Passwords after the recent changes to it. I doubt this will excelerate it or anything because I will still want somewhere as a secondary area incase I loose access to my apple account.
I've been a mostly happy 1Password customer with a Family plan for quite some time. This may cause me to jump ship.
My biggest issue with 1Password has been 1) how intrusive it can be in the browser, especially on mobile when it's too proactive to show its dropdown and just gets in the way of my experience. I know this is challenging because a mobile device is a small screen, but it is incredibly frustrating. 2) how bad the Safari extension. It regularly fails to load at all.
Aside from that, while you're absolutely correct - 1Password is still relatively inexpensive, let's look at the improvements thet mention:
1. Automatic saving of logins and payment details
Isn't this what 1Password has always done or am I misunderstanding?
2. Enhanced Watchtower alerts
I haven't seen any of these alerts ever help me.
3. Faster, more secure device setup
This I have noticed. It is very convenient
4. AI-powered item naming
This is weak sauce. I don't care for "AI" to help me name my logins/accounts/etc.
5. Expanded recovery options
I'm not sure what this is and how it's different than what they've always offered on a Family plan.
6. Proactive phishing prevention
Fine, I guess.
Story time on the mobile proactivity.
I was buying a train ticket on Eurostar for my mother. I filled her name as the passenger. Scrolled down and used the 1Password data I have to fill my address and billing information. I proceed and pay. Later, when checking the ticket, I see it's on my name. 1Password changed the passenger details, and since the screen is small, I did not notice.
No 100% refund from Eurostar, but lesson learned.
I'm not leaving 1Password though. It's too convenient for my family.
I’ve had it do stuff like that and it’s very annoying when it’s an issue - which it sometimes is.
That and a lack of easy way to report a login page that doesn’t work perfectly would be my top annoyances (behind a 33% increase in a subscription that was already annoying me each time it came around).
To be honest I'm mostly fine with the price increase (it hasn't been adjusted for inflation in ages), the thing I do take issue with is that for over a year now (with the 'upgrade' to a new web interface) you can't easily create a password etc. anymore straight from the browser extension.
You click the button in the browser, choose what to create 'I want to create a password (or a note, or whatever)' and then get redirected to their web-app and be presented with a pop-up asking what you want to create (I just told you, didn't I?)
I get it, when you move to a new web-app some things can break. But after using stored passwords creating new ones is pretty much the only other thing you do in the app, it seems to be core functionality that's been broken for over a year now, it's kinda madness tbh.
Edit: To be fair they offered a 'solution' when I reported it: "Don't use the web-app, install our desktop app instead."
The manage to find the money to sponsor an F1 team, so I don't think the money is the issue.
Also, if they'd increase things by 5%, or did yearly 2% increases or something like that, I'd be okay with that (to cover the inflation). But the 33% increase combined with the list of features I don't care about -- that's just taking users for granted. Thankfully I didn't start using passkeys, otherwise I'd be locked within 1p without ability to export them.
> Also, if they'd increase things by 5%, or did yearly 2% increases or something like that, I'd be okay with that (to cover the inflation). But the 33% increase combined with the list of features I don't care about -- that's just taking users for granted
The price has been unchanged at least as far back as mid 2018. According to the inflation calculator at bls.gov [1] inflation over those 8 years was 31%.
[1] https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm
> The manage to find the money to sponsor an F1 team, so I don't think the money is the issue.
I'm guessing they'd view that as a marketing expense.
In a world where everything is increasing in prices and salaries aren't keeping pace, you might be able to see it if you imagine what life was like making much less money.
1Password, like other subscriptions, becomes something for the middle class and up, not for the masses.
Vendor solutions become the only option.
YNAB has done something similar apparently, and things like actual budget are stepping up to take the slack.
> I will still want somewhere as a secondary area incase I loose access to my apple account
I'm quite content with Apple's Password app but I pay for 1Password only for the peace of mind of having a backup in case Apple ever locks my account. I will suck it up and pay the higher price.
Part of my migration plan from 1Password to Apple Passwords is making sure I have all the account recovery options possible.
I had risks with 1Password as well. If my house were to burn down, and my phone was also inside, I’d lose it all. I have offsite backups, but I need 1Password to get into them.
In China the median hourly wage is somewhere between 4 and 6 USD, whereas in India where most employment is ‘informal’ estimates of the median wage vary from about 50 cents to 1 USD an hour.
So to cover those twelve dollars, the average Chinese worker will have to work three to four more hours a year just to have the same functionality, whereas the Indian average worker will have to work twelve to 24 more hours a year.
Does that help your struggle?
I've had good experiences with KeePassXC. In addition to being able to store your passwords, it can ingest TOTP seeds. And finally, it's open source and cross platform. (I originally stumbled upon it because it was the only KeePass implementation that tried to look like a native MacOS app)
This is a killer feature for me, since apparently iOS backups do not backup your TOTP generators in Google Authenticator, which I discovered after I wiped my phone and restored it thinking I was perfectly safe doing so given I had a backup.
I now encourage all the folks I mentor to set up a KeePass vault for the TOTP seeds.
There's even an option to generate one of those fancy QR codes that apps like authenticator can use, so the two are not mutually exclusive.
If you're an individual, not an enterprise user, I don't see why anyone would pay for a password manager.
Is KeePassXC better than Bitwarden?
Bitwarden is superior, especially for syncing between desktop and mobile devices.
I use both (for different purposes) and prefer the native app (and KeePassDX on Android), but note that it is a local app and doesn't sync. You need to use something else (eg. Syncthing or Dropbox) for that.
It's a shame that the free/cheap password managers that regular people would use (like those by Apple, Google) seem unwilling to loosen their platform lock-in, and others like 1Password mainly target business use and are too expensive for the average joe to bother. So decades and dozens of new auth standards later we are still in a place where people use the same password on all accounts and write it down on post-its.
The industry has collectively spent untold billions/trillions on cybersecurity over the years, while the best way to actually secure access would be to have a free, preinstalled, interoperable password manager that "just works".
> It's a shame that the free/cheap password managers that regular people would use (like those by Apple, Google) seem unwilling to loosen their platform lock-in, and others like 1Password mainly target business use and are too expensive for the average joe to bother. So decades and dozens of new auth standards later we are still in a place where people use the same password on all accounts and write it down on post-its.
Bitwarden is free and easy to use.
1Password used to be great for personal use and you could sync your vault with Dropbox or Synchings or whatever. I'm sad they stopped selling "forever" licenses and supporting local sync and went the SaaS route.
It's a shame that the free/cheap password managers that regular people would use (like those by Apple, Google) seem unwilling to loosen their platform lock-in
How do you mean? You can export your passwords from the Apple app:
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/export-passwords-iphf...
Does Apple have an Android or Windows app? Well, no, and if that's your meaning then I can see your point.
If the main use case is shared team secrets (API keys, tokens, .env equivalents), there are team-secrets-specific tools worth considering as alternatives:
- KeyEnv (keyenv.dev) — CLI-first secrets manager, syncs across team via CLI. Works like .env but centralized and access-controlled. No per-seat pricing. - Doppler — More full-featured, team-friendly - Infisical — Open source option with self-host
1Password is great for passwords/logins. For dev team secrets specifically (API keys, CI tokens), a purpose-built tool often fits better since you get CLI integration, per-project scoping, and environment-level access control.
Depends on your ratio of "password manager" vs "secrets manager" usage.
Completely worth it to me. It would be an incredible value at twice the price and part of my daily workflow on all machines.
Same, just excellent software that I use 100+ times per day.
Quality matters in what you use constantly.
My issue is that quality has noticeably dropped over the years. I can’t justify paying more while the core functionality is getting worse. It’s been going downhill since the launch of v8. I sung its praises for many years (I’ve been using it for 18 years), but that mostly stopped after v8 was released.
I kept going with it because I thought being platform agnostic with my password manager was important. But with them taking on all these investors, watching quality drop, and now that they have everyone migrated to subscriptions… raising prices rather significantly. I’m done. I have a feeling this is just the tip of the iceberg.
100+ times a day? Explain yourself.
I login/unlock my password manager maybe...a dozen times a week and that would be a high count when I'm doing "business" and logging in for financial things.
Not the OP, but I have a dotfile that aliases the 1Password CLI. I use that heavily every day.
+1
For pure peace-of-mind managing a family and all our passwords and digtial security, it's value is far more than this monthly cost
There is no reason for this increase except the fact that they know people are too lazy to migrate away.
Most of the listed features don't make any sense as core value propositions (wtf is AI-powered item naming)
I just wrote up my migration plan. This is going to be very painful.
Step 1 is deleting accounts I don’t use anymore. I did 2 of them today. One required an email, another required a phone call. Both were rather painful, but at least I was able to get them done within the day. I have 320 accounts left to go through.
I have been wanting to reign in my digital footprint, so I guess this is a good excuse, it’s just very difficult. Last year I tried to delete a PSN account (I have 2 of them). I waited on hold with Sony for 45 minutes for them to just hang up on me. I also got caught in captcha hell a few times.
I also have to be willing to let things ago. I found an old Zinio account. I assumed the company would be dead (digital magazines), but they are still going, my account still works, and I have dozens of magazines in there I purchased 15 years ago when the iPad launched. Do I keep it around just incase, or let it go… there are going to be a lot of things like this. I almost feel like I need to take time off work to deal with this.
There is no reason for this increase except the fact that they know people are too lazy to migrate away.
They're not wrong. I'm a geeky guy with a tech resume as long as your arm, and I'd really rather do something else beside research how to export 1PWD data to something else, then import to $TOOL_OF_CHOICE. I'm sure it's not all that hard, and maybe that's part of the problem: it's monkey work, not an interesting technical challenge, right up there with "clean the gutters".
You can export the vault data (one export per vault) in a format that is largely supported by other password software to import. It's annoying but not terrible.
Below are a few valid reason to increase the price a software company charge their customer.
1. R&D 2. Increase salary 3. Increase OpEx
You left out the most bizarre part of the email:
> Action needed: Please go to my.1password.com/billing to register your approval. If you do not provide consent by your next renewal date on or after March 27, 2026, your subscription will automatically be cancelled at time of your next renewal
Apparently you get auto-cancelled if you don't manually accept the price increase?
Wasn't mentioned on mine, either (Ohio, United States). My subscription is through in-app purchase, so I'm assuming that'll go through Apple's usual "your subscription price is increasing" flow.
yep, i also had the auto-cancellation included. located in germany. good job, EU! :)
Doesn't seem to be EU related. I'm in The Netherlands, using the .eu servers from 1Password and the email I got just says:
> The new price will take effect at your next renewal, provided it’s on or after <date>. Those occurring prior to <date>, will continue at the current pricing until your next renewal.
Same here in Switzerland. The instructions in the email say to confirm the price change under my.1password.com/billing but I don't see any confirmation options on that page. So i'm assuming my account will just be canceled ^^
Odd, I also live in Switzerland but have no such instructions in the message I got.
That wasn't in the e-mail I received. Perhaps it's only for customers in certain locations in order to comply with local laws.
As the OP, I didn't receive it, either.
what's interesting is that the email I received did not contain this part. Maybe it's the billing address and laws? Mine is in the Washington State, US.
If everyone goes to their subscriptions and cancels today maybe they'll get the message.
I've done it, and will spend the rest of the current renewal figuring out how well Apple Passwords works, I guess.
I'd like to sync everything but realistically I just need to extract any 2FA I have left in 1p; everything else can be password reset when the time cometh.
I stopped using 1Password for personal stuff and switched to just Apple Passwords about a year ago so I can add a little colour to what to expect.
Firstly, the Apple Passwords app is slow as molasses, just really really bad. If you've got more than about 1000 items, it's almost unusable. That said, you very rarely have to use it, because password entry in Safari is perfect, and the menubar app for it doesn't have the same slowness problems.
One big gotcha though is that Apple Passwords thinks site1.example.com and site2.example.com are the same site. So if you log into site1, it notices that the password you used isn't the password for site2 and offers to update it. If you click yes, it will overwrite the password stored against every subdomain of example.com - if you need to use multiple Sentry accounts, this is very problematic.
Finally, password entry in other browsers is less than perfect. There's an extension for Firefox but it's clunky, and the experience is even worse in Orion. Don't know about Chrome as I don't like to have spyware on my computer.
1Password also thinks site1.example.com and site2.example.com are the same.
This is adjustable - sorry for UI in French - https://imgur.com/a/Rn046lL
For a password saved from foo.contoso.com:
First option - "Fill anywhere on site" - this means it will fill on foo.contoso.com and bar.contoso.com
Second option - "Fill only on the specified hostname" - will only fill on foo.contoso.com
Third option "Never fill" - written on the tin.
it's possible to make entries autofill only for the specific subdomain. But otherwise, you're correct.
It's possible to make them autofill, yes, but it's the dialog that asks you if you want to update the password stored for example.com after you autofill, that's the gotcha. That one will set the password for every *.example.com password you have stored, to the one you just used.
edit: Ooops, just realised you were responding about 1Password, sorry.
Is it possible to set it to NOT require Touch ID for every single password every time?
Not to my knowledge, but if you have a paired watch, it will let you do the double-side-button-click to approve
I've no idea I'm afraid, I've never tried as it's so quick and seamless to use.
On phone it's no issue to use FaceID, but my laptop and desk setup is such that I have to reach my arm over to use it.
Oh, the humanity!
That sounds awful, you have my full sympathy.
I use it with Chrome and so far I had no issues.
Apple Passwords works very well (as somebody who has fully migrated to it for password storage and OTP functionality). There’s a bit of a hassle because Apple has much simpler data structures currently, but you can bet that they’re working to enhance the record types they support because it’s such an easy win.
A commenter here recently just asked me if I have considered BitWarden due to my gripes with KeePass. KeePass cannot rent-seek off my passwords. You can of course host BitWarden, but the official software can always get worse (see Minio). Thankfully we have community run versions of the BitWarden server (VaultWarden), whereas 1password customers are left to dry. There just isn't any money in personal password managers, and restricting features like TOTP (BitWarden free tier) rarely entices the average person to get a paid plan.
> restricting features like TOTP (BitWarden free tier) rarely entices the average person to get a paid plan.
TOTP on Bitwarden is $10 a year.
This is useful enough for a family of 4 with teenagers who have a lot of logins that I don't mind the price. I'm not going to deal with self-hosting to save $1/month. My time is worth more than that.
I'd like to switch to Bitwarden, but my singular focus is on security. I trust 1P because of its reputation in the security community. Does Bitwarden have any drawbacks when compared to 1P, security-wise?
Just cancelled my subscription, which was due for renewal a few days after the change takes effect. I can live with vaults being read-only while I find a (self-hosted) alternative.
nothing better than bitwarden
KeePass. Free. Portable.
I would be fine with this if they fixed the wildly buggy browser extensions.
The number of times my preferences have been wiped after an extension update is maddening.
I'm a 15+ year user of 1password and have been telling myself to move off of it for like 5 years now. It ain't the price... $72 is really fine for good software that just works.
But as mentioned throughout the thread it's really just too much. My goodness they really could have a nice, profitable, business with simple software. I'd happily pay $10/month for the version of 1password from 15 years ago! It's just all too much.
The VC treadmill ruined what should be a simple, sustainable business. They’re not going to light the world on fire trying to pedal a password manager as the be all and end all IAM story for enterprises. It’s not the amount of the increase. It’s that they’re chasing enterprise for VC unicorn status and clearly intending to leave their original market behind. I don’t want my passwords in a product becoming more and more derelict since the org’s heart is in another place.
Very disappointed by this. I've been a customer for many, many years on a Family plan, but I do not understand this price raise. The only reason they raise price is definitely because of the need to answer to investors, and the necessary enshitification that follows. While I understand every business needs to generate revenues, they put on us, the customers, the burden of their rapid hiring spree and growing operating costs. It's just sad. There is just so much you can charge for managing passwords, and the family plan becomes way too expensive for the value it truly provides. We will need to switch to a less expensive competitor.
That's for family plans. For individual plans it is increasing as
> Current vs New Pricing: Current price: $35.88 USD / year New price: $47.88 USD / year
That's a 33% increase!
I checked with their "AI chat" about whether I could lock in current prices by renewing early but they said they would not allow this. I'm kind of surprised that there is no option to do this (I see Jetbrains as an example of a company which makes this very easy)
I've been a 1password customer for many years, so I'm a bit bummed out about this.
A very recent frustration from them was this: https://x.com/youyuxi/status/2005904473332564339?s=20 - their Chrome extension was breaking code block rendering on a lot of websites for weeks. The issue had already been reported in their community forum, but it didn’t seem to gain much traction until Evan You mentioned it publicly on Twitter. Only then did it feel like it was taken seriously.
That experience, combined with a ~33% price increase, makes the direction a bit concerning, and feels like it’s going in a down hill...
That said, it’s genuinely difficult to move my family off 1Password. I just wish there are stronger competitors.
Their Linux app crashes half the time trying to launch, and I have to resort to the browser app. It's been like this for at least the 1 year I've been a customer. And, Their browser app also has a horrendous impact on browser performance. I always thought Firefox was just kind of slow..but it was 1password bogging it down all along.
The haven't raised the price of the individual plan in at least 8 years. It is now going up 33%.
Inflation calculated from the CPI over the last 8 years in the US was 31%, which is fuzzy enough that it should be considered approximately equal to 33%.
A lot of overreaction here.
I think it’s the steep adjustment in price more than anything else. Raising prices 3% every year is perceived quite differently than raising it 20-33% once.
I’m not sure about that. I’m a 1Password user and if I had consistent price increases every year I’d have ditched it a lot sooner
And they can serve much more clients on single server than they could 8 years ago
That has to be the lamest use of “AI” to justify price increases.
Anyone have suggestions for a good alternative?
I've been using 1Password (family version to share some subset within the family) for more than 10 years now, but I have to say the user experience has degraded quite a bit. Anyone have a better overall alternative? (Doesn't necessarily have to be cheaper.)
Bitwarden. You can host a free instance with Vaultwarden.
Using Enpass, migrated from 1Password when in need of a Linux client some 10years ago. As early user I was grandfathered into a free lifetime account and eventually was required to pay a discounted lifetime fee $70 through Apple, which I’m fine with, it’s Indian developers need to pay their rent too.
Enpass has all features I need, on all platforms including iOS. It syncs using the api of one of the free storage providers, WebDAV or even over WiFi. Having some 600 entries and a few attachments (copy of ID Cards etc) and never had any performance issues. Nor issues with subdomains. Regular updates, most recently added PRF (Pseudo-Random Function) for passkeys. It lacks a command line client, which I can live with. Nor does it support the fingerprint reader on Linux, instead has a pin option for quick unlocking.
I've used 1PWD for at least as long as you, and when renewal comes around (EDIT: oops, guess I never "upgraded" to subscription plan) I'm going to cancel and just stick with Apple's Passwords app (née Keychain Access). First "cloud!", subscriptions, now 33% price increases for the hell of it, I'm outta here, 1PWD. (Though in looking just now, we never upgraded to v8.0, so I guess I'm already outta here.)
I only suggest Passwords because if you've used 1PWD for that long, odds are good you're on Apple HW/OS. It does everything we need in our household, including shared creds. One of these days I'll get off me arse and export the 1PWD stuff (IIRC, 1PWD->Apple PWDs is doable). Right now we use 1PWD as R/O, and all new stuff goes in Passwords.
Good to hear that is a viable option. I am mostly on Apple devices, but do need Linux and Windows support, so I don't think it will work for me.
I'm working on an alternative that I hope would be better. https://github.com/lockstepvault-hq/lockstep (early alfa project)
Would you mind sharing what user experiences are not ideal with 1Password, I'd like to know I can address those those in Lockstep.
I'd say it's mainly to do with browser/iOS plugins not being responsive. I find myself often resorting to opening the app and copying and pasting the password or other info because autofill function doesn't work on different websites.
Otherwise minor UI things like categories on the sidebar which made it easy to navigate, but they got rid of it a while back.
Good luck with your project!
If you're in the Apple ecosystem, password and passkey management via iCloud is included.
Don’t lock yourself in apple ecosystem especially in such important thing as password management.
You can export from their app very easily.
Can you export it once apple locks your account?
I doubt it. But I keep my own encrypted backup anyway (as I did with 1P, too), so realistically only the most recently added/updated passwords are at risk.
Why not? How is the risk substantially different than with a different vendor?
First, all your passwords are locked behind the same passcode you use to log-in. You cannot set different password to unlock the passwords. Anyone who saw your iphone passcode or macbook’s password can not only onlock the device but get access to all the passwords as they are behind the same passcode.
Second, what would happen if you were locked out of apple id account? Or don’t have access to apple hardware.
Password manager should really be platform and device agnostic.
That’s why people used stuff like 1password in the first place.
You really don’t want to put all your life into a single account (that’s why you should not use sign with google or what have you).
People (at least I) started using 1pwd because it was substantially and amazingly better than keychain at the time.
The delta has greatly decreased.
Bitwarden, keepass
What do subscription password managers do compared to free managers, such as keepass + device-to-device synchronization, so that people are willing to pay even 1 penni, let alone $72?
I’m really disappointed by this. I’ve been a 1Password user for 18 years.
Over the last several years, since they moved to Electron for the main app, things have gotten worse and worse. The browser extension doesn’t work half the time. In addition to being frustrating, that makes it a less secure system, as one of the benefits is that it only fills the password on the specified domain. A lack of reliability of the extension leaves people more vulnerable to phishing, since they have to copy/paste passwords out of the app.
The features they list, I don’t care about. AI item naming? What? It already automatically named things pretty well without AI. It feels like they just want to use the hot buzz word.
A password manager should be a fairly boring utility. It should be secure, stable, reliable for the long-haul. These ideas are incompatible with taking on investments from a bunch of celebrities.
When I heard about them taking on investors I was worried. Password managers create a fair amount of lock-in, and now they’re starting the squeeze, while failing to deliver on the basic functionality I want out of a password manager… filling passwords in the browser.
It seems like I’ll need to migrate over the next 5 months. I was hoping this day would never come, as it was mostly a good 18 years. I recommended 1Password to a lot of people over the years.
While I don’t want to move to a password manager that will create vendor lock-in, I will probably end up going to Apple Passwords.
> In addition to being frustrating, that makes it a less secure system, as one of the benefits is that it only fills the password on the specified domain. A lack of reliability of the extension leaves people more vulnerable to phishing, since they have to copy/paste passwords out of the app.
The latest updates have it prompting me every time I auto fill to approve filing on the site.
I'm dumbstruck by this. I want you to reject it if it's not the right site, not ask me to verify the site by hand every time...I haven’t received this update yet, but it sounds like they no longer understand what business they’re in.
I wish in addition to WatchTower they had a way to identify sites that no longer exist. I want to clean things up before I migrate—delete logins for dead companies, delete accounts on sites I no longer use, etc. Some tools to help with that would be much more useful than the new features they actually added. These are tools I’ve wanted/needed for a long time now. I have over 300 logins in 1Password, and that’s after I’ve already done a few manual efforts to cleanup in the past (277 items already archived).
This might be where they could actually add AI in a useful way, instead of item naming. Ping the URLs periodically to see if they are still alive. If they’re dead, have the AI do a little research to see if the site is just down or the company went under… and maybe try to find out if there is any information on how the data was handled upon company closure. For dead sites, consolidate all that information into a section of the app for vault pruning and maintenance. Make it easy to archive all this old stuff and feel good about it. In addition to this, surface how to delete account data on each site I have a login for. There are websites for this, why doesn’t 1Password pull that type of information in to make cleanup easy. Deleting an account that is no longer needed is safer than rotating the password periodically or when I had been breached and shows in WatchTower. These sites store more than just password data that gets taken, deletion is always better.
Maybe they don’t care, because few accounts are as old as mine, but these are the types of things I’d expect from a tool for power users vs all the free options out there. There is a lot of competition in this space now, and if they don’t want to be old-reliable, they could at least be useful.
Love how there’s never an “I don’t want new features, I want my current price” option.
Lately their Windows client has been consistently crashing for me when it tries to auto-run on a fresh boot. It always works the second time, but still, how about getting your shit together before dropping a 30% price increase.
I’ve always had fine experiences with 1Password both on iPhone and my Mac. With how bad Windows 11 is and continues to be, I wonder if your ire is misdirected. On my work computer (Windows) I’ve had a plethora of stability issues across a variety of programs/applications including ones developed by Microsoft.
Maybe, but I've found Win11 to be stable in general. Not to say there aren't issues elsewhere.
https://old.reddit.com/r/1Password/comments/1bwesve/1passwor...
Seems like it's been a recurring issue for years, even on Win10.
I despise what 1Password has become. They've spent the past 10 years removing everything that made it great, and becoming increasingly user hostile. And now this. Well they can fuck off. This is great timing though as only the other day I was researching the alternatives - current front runners are Passbolt [0], Hypervault [1] and Heylogin [2]. If anyone has personal experience with any of these I'd love to hear your thoughts.
[0] https://www.passbolt.com
[1] https://hypervault.com
[2] https://www.heylogin.com/en
Hey, CEO and Co-Founder of heylogin here.
Feel free to try out heylogin and let me what you think of it. I know we don't have feature parity with 1pw, but we try to innovate on the core user experience of logging into websites first. Our typical users are non-IT people, but more and more features are now implemented to also cater IT pros.
Thanks for popping by! Feature parity with 1Password would actually count against you, it's so bloated with stuff only huge enterprises need now, and all its best features have been removed over the last few years. I checked our 1Password billing and it seems we're paid up until Dec 2027, so if you've got good passkey support by then you may well have a new customer.
passkey support is currently in internal beta, but will be released soon. what kind of features have been removed from 1pw that you considered important?
Oh man, I don't think that essay would fit in a HN comment. The biggest one for me though was keyboard operation - I have fine motor control problems so try to use the trackpad as little as possible. 1Password used to have two different global keyboard shortcuts, one for the regular autofill interface and another that would pop up a mini version of 1Password that was fully keyboard navigable and could do almost everything the full 1Password app could do. I could hit Cmd+Opt+\ from anywhere and then entirely through keyboard interactions do almost anything I needed to do. This has been replaced by one global keyboard shortcut that only works if your focussed app is a browser with a login screen on it, and even then it often needs hitting multiple times in order for the interface to appear, and sometimes never appears at all until you finally give up and launch the 1Password app, and then magically you get the 1Password app with the 1Password mini interface over the top of it. It's one of the most frustrating experiences imaginable when it used to be such a useful thing.
Thanks, that's interesting. We don't see all the smaller changes our competitors are doing. With heylogin, you could try our Quick Access feature. It pops up with a global shortcut and is fully keyboard navigable. Let me know if something is missing there.
I'm also open to suggestions for other options. I'm more than happy to pay for a good product, which 1Password was when I first started paying them. Must be team focussed, work with any browser, and if it's not Electron I'll pay extra.
KeePass. Free. Portable. I'm a longtime user and carry my database around on an USB stick.
1password is by far my most recommended subscription to friends and family.
In a world where almost every single app or service I use has thrown me into a rage from enshittification or show-stopping bugs or both, where I can hardly even type this message because even iOS keyboards have regressed… 1password is actually a great service that makes my life objectively better.
I put them in an exclusive S-Tier with, surprisingly, Chase Mobile (in recent years), Signal, Google Sheets, and maybe an few others. They just work.
Since the rest of them ignore my 1 star App Store reviews and my desperate, detailed bug reports, the only power I have left is to support good software and recommend it to friends.
My experience has been the opposite, they have become worse and worse since the early days when they were small Mac shop with a standalone app. It's really death by a thousand papercuts now. Sometimes it cannot fill a password, sometimes it loses the connection between the browser plugin and the native app and doesn't really fill anything at all anymore, the interface sucks compared to the native Mac version, etc.
The only reason I have not migrated away is that my wife and daughter also use it (1Password Family) and it seems like a huge task to properly migrate the hundreds of passwords, tens of passkeys, etc. Maybe this is the final straw.
>Chase Mobile
What banking tasks are you doing that other apps don't seem to handle -- are you trading stocks or something?
I basically never use a banking app except to deposit a check (which all the various apps seem to handle well now) or transfer money from the checking account that receives my direct deposit to the account I use at ATMS. (Love that air gap).
> Chase Mobile
Really? To me that app is like the WeChat of banking. It just does so many things. Do not even get my started on the non-standard long totp that they force you to enter when trying to navigate certain parts of the app (you're already authed, why reauth?!).
I think the Schwab app-for doing as many things as the Chase app, is a much smoother experience.
Wow, add AI nobody wanted or needed and pull a gmail and say this justifies raising the price. Exceptionally uncool.
Apple plays the long game and has been improving the password app substantially. I've noticed.
I stopped my 1Password subscription last year and started using Apple Passwords. The user experience is great if you switch to Safari with fingerprint login.
Considering you can very easily be forced to login with your fingerprint by cops, bad actors etc... I would (personally) avoid doing this.
Accessing your laptop is one thing, accessing all of your passwords for every app with a fingerprint is scary.
They took VC money, this was expected. But still, +30% is high.
Using icloud passwords is more sensible. it's free and available on windows and other mac devices. In fact, opting for an icloud+ subscription at $1 a month is hard to resist. 1Password is secure but expensive
If you are looking for an alternative take a look at Psono. It's open source, only sold B2B so it's free for individuals. It's made in Germany, so a European alternative to the US solutions. It has all the typical features with browser extensions and apps for android and iOS.
I love the product but this is a really aggressive price update and makes me concerned they’ll try to gouge me in years to come.
Enshittification strikes again. For a normal user, the software seems to be getting worse and more cumbersome, and the company seems to continue focusing solely on pushing business- and enterprise-centric features that I have no use for. They'd do well to offer a non-pro type subscription for users who don't want all of that. Instead, though, I and a lot of others will simply be canceling.
I've only been using it for a couple years, but I find it has gotten better not worse for me.
It used to be really, really good on Mac, simply phenomenal, even when it was "syncing" via a dropbox folder.
Now it's more clunky, gets in fights with Apple's (admittedly much better passwords/keychain) via overlapping dialogs, and generally feels much worse.
This is going to be the impetus to move me off.
I’ve been using it for 18 years. It’s significantly worse than it used to be in terms of basic reliability. I was already debating a move, but didn’t really want to. This price hike, in the context of all the investors they took on, just seals the deal.
people are going to complain it wasn't subscription and that it was native.
Honestly, it's a really nice app. Most people don't care about that. My family finds it easy to use and the features are good.
Could I selfhost? Yes.
Would my family find that annoying?, Yes.
Could I use bitwarden? Yes.
My family would be annoyed at me migrating to another alternative if my argument is that I don't want to pay $1/month/year ($12/year).
Fortunately 1P6 with one time purchase still works. I don't care about this company since then.
I have been a customer since 2018. However, I'm getting tired of all these subscriptions. I will use Apple Password moving forward
They still don't have support for recovery codes and links to secrets between vaults... Their Chrome extension stopped working for most websites, especially for credit cards! The Electron app is using plenty of RAM.
Yeah, pretty disappointed by this as well. The app has been getting buggier overtime and I was already considering leaving, so this was the push I needed.
Seems like the most popular players in this space are Bitwarden and KeePass, does anybody have a positive or negative experience to share with either?
I don't like Bitwarden UI/UX. It looks not really polished. Especially the "folders" are akward. How the implemented it, calling them labels and designing them like labels would make way more sense. But the whole UI looks like software developers - and not designers - built it.
That makes sense.
I think I tried using it maybe 4 years ago or so, and I had the same feeling. It just felt.. awkward to use, lots of friction. I was hoping it had changed by now, but I guess that hasn't happened.
I use 1Password personally and use Bitwarden at work. Bitwarden doesn't feel as polished as 1password and the user experience could use some love.
Bitwarden is a shit product lacking basic niceties: search is terrible (substring match is beyond first page of results), UI is sometimes non-async (typing freezes search), no way to sort by newest/date added, no way to make two note (textarea) fields, no way to expand it, consumes memory and CPU etc
However, it’s open-source, cross platform and sorta works.
Ah that's disappointing.
So you've just been with 1Password then? Did you try KeePass or anything else?
No I'm using Bitwarden and hate it :)
What bugs have you encountered? It’s been flawless for me.
It's been little things and mainly usability/polish things.
Sometimes the vault doesn't unlock and I have to enter in my password 2-3 times.
It doesn't always capture all information from a page properly when creating a new login and there are additional fields to capture.
The "detecting if a website supports key passes and one time password" feature for Watchtower was overwhelming with lots of information, until I clicked each one and had to ignore it.
These reasons alone are not enough for me to leave, the 3 big problems are below.
1 - I was feeling more uncomfortable having websites promote using passkeys, and I would store that in 1Password, but then I wasn't sure if 1Password as going to make it easy to migrate that stuff out. So, I want to use something open source, so I don't have to worry about losing access/managing that stuff in a propertiery/closed product. It might be easy to export/migrate out today, until something changes and they no longer allow that or make it very difficult/hard to scale/automate.
2 - I have a strong feeling this price increase is being justified by "AI" somehow. I'm sure, like all other companies, 1Password is internally forcing/requiring its developers to use coding models, and sonnet, opus, etc are expensive to use and the cost adds up. Also, I don't like the direction of where things are headed, where people are becoming more relaxed and not reviewing code properly and merging in code that will cause security issues later (perhaps openclaw fits into this bucket) or they are taking open-source code they laundering it for companies internally to use (I can't prove this, but if a model is trained on public data/code, it seems very likely). Something about that just bothers me especially when a company is worth billions of dollars.
3 - I've spent the last 3 years building up my homelab and using Pikapods for hosting various things. I want to support open-source more and run my own things and pay supporters properly to maintain things. I've always been a bit nervous what might happen if 1Password gets hacked, either because of poor security or due to a third party vendor. I still have the problem of my things getting hacked, but I pay more attention to how I secure things and use Tailscale and not publish things on the broad internet (when it makes sense). Also, I would be a hypocrite to dismiss the value of coding llms, as I'm using them myself. But how I'm using them, I'm using them to do security reviews of my docker compose files or kubernetes yaml files. Having coding llms has made it so much easier to maintain a homelab.
Personally I've had issues with Windows Hello integration for a while. It worked for a while but then didn't anymore. Everything is right and best I could find was the team saying it's some weird issue with TPM. Once I put in my master password the Hello integration is fine. It's just storing the key in TPM that doesn't work. So every restart I need to put in the master password. Granted my desktop is a Ryzen 2 system but still.
The 33% increase (47.88/35.88) for the "features" I don't need is too much. I will be switching to Bitwarden.
I think if they increased the prices by 5% or something like that, I'd said fine, that >30% is simply not justified.
Most users don't need any of the premium features, so the point may be moot, but it's worth mentioning that bitwarden increased their premium tier prices by 100% this year (10/y to 20/y). https://bitwarden.com/blog/bitwarden-launches-enhanced-premi...
I think 20/yr is low enough and much cheaper than 1p anyway, so it seems fine to me. I have already cancelled my yearly 1p password subscription and will use the next couple of months to get familiar with bitwarden before the full switch.
My family members struggle to use 1Password. This breaks it for them, as I can't really defend 1Password over Apple/Google password managers anymore.
I am ready to pay for this. This is useful tool (even as there are many self-hosted options).
If they write a native (non Electron) app, fine.
Their extension has not been working well
I've been using Bitwarden, can anybody help me with how are they compared to 1Password?
This will finally push me to self host an alternative, not even an hour of work until everything is merged.
The 1Password app(s) have never been buggier or more frustrating to use. App UIs have never been more convoluted.
Enshittification comes for us all, sadly, even something like this that has largely been indispensable for me and my family for so long now.
Not sure what to say, because Bitwarden is worse at everything and nothing else is even worth mentioning based on what I know. Great example of something I’ll stay with for now simply because there are no better alternatives on the market.
PS - listing AI auto naming of items as an improvement got a genuine laugh out of me.
I don't mind the increase per-se, but the "improvements" they advertise to justify it are laughable. Not to mention that 1Password 8 has been a major downgrade across the board.
This is in preparation for their IPO when the market is attractive.
Still way under the actual rate of inflation
4$/month is cheap. It’s about a coffee!
This is a fallacy, because many apps and services require subscriptions. One subscription is "just a coffee", but you have a lot of them.
Seems excessive
Got the same. Kind of a bummer to see “AI powered item naming”. Who needs this shit? Hope the price increase is not to cover their useless AI spendings. Otherwise I’m happy with 1Password.
Wasn’t software cost going to 0 thanks to AI? How they justify 33% increase?
Even if the cost of software is truly going down (which is debatable), what makes you think the savings will be passed down to you?
Those savings should mean increased margins for the company while keeping the price to the consumer the same.
By what you're saying, the cost of AI sounds like a good argument.
Cost to companies may go down to zero but the price to consumers can still go up.
Will they fix the Chrome extension for this price increase or do I have to wait ~1 hour for it to sync or restart the browser? Check the rating of the extension compared to all others. It is shit, it has been shit for 1+ year.
Not stoked but it's the first since I've joined. Not an insane jump. Seeing Bitwarden go up had me wondering. It's still the best all rounder password manager I've used. Has everything and does it all really well. If Bitwarden could integrate their Reports feature into the app that might be a compelling reason to come back.
$1 more per month is okay, but these planned features are laughable.
yeah, honestly i'm baffled... don't they have a whole team for marketing and communications? it's a slap in a customer's face... i've been on this subscription for 9 years, and now with enshittification, scott galloway, rutger bregman and cory doctorow all shouting off the roofs to cancel US-based subscriptions it's like no one on their public comms team is reading the room; like at all.
and on top of that they added this joke of a list of features supposed to justify the decision... as if i had previously been asked about if i'd want "AI-powered item naming. wow, what a shitshow.
They're Canadian:
> © 2025 1Password. All rights reserved. 4711 Yonge St, 10th Floor, Toronto Ontario, M2N 6K8, Canada
Though I don't know if they host all their servers in Canada or not.
They have a Canadian-hosted version at 1password.ca
Most will just absorb the price.
Fee will move to something like Bitwarden and keepass