Immediate nostalgia activated. I ran this on a Pentium machine (I think) at home, still living with my parents. Sometimes I yearn for the optimism and relative naïveté of those times.
I still have both the screensaver and the moment that I realized that disabling the screensaver allowed processing to happen meaningfully quicker burned into my mind.
Same. Although with the curse of hindsight, I painfully recall choosing to run SETI@home instead of "mining" some weird digital currency called Bitcoin back in 2010. So, painful.
Exactly the same here. Ran SETI@home on all my machines back in the day. I remember running this weird bitcoin ‘thing’ for an entire week on my main machine which generated around 1.4 btc. Then I DELETED it.
>Most radio SETI projects process data in near real-time using special purpose analyzers at the telescope. SETI@home takes a different approach. It records digital time-domain (also called baseband) data, and distributes it over the internet to large numbers of computers that process the data, using both CPUs and GPUs.
Definetly something going on here I'm not following.
>SETI@home is in hiberation. We are no longer distributing tasks. [0]
Is this paper really old or something? I would love to turn on my clients again :D
I'd discourage claiming any biological process is "solved."
But to your point: No--AlphaFold is an amazing machine learning approach to predicting protein structure but Folding@Home is still immensely useful for simulating how proteins fold up over a timescale. They are/will be complimentary methods.
no, alphafold is basically just a static structure predictor. folding@home explicitly models the folding process (the journey, not just the destination).
They went into hibernation, in terms of accepting new inputs, several years ago. They had more data than they could handle and switched to just analyzing existing data and final reports.
With the final analysis of this project complete, I do wonder if there's a way to bring it back with distributed agents doing the part that was so time-intensive for researchers that they had to kill it.
I was just thinking about this project the other day. Seems we have a whole lot of unused compute (and now GPU). I wish someone would create a meaningful project like this to distribute AI training or something. Imagine underfunded AI researchers being able to distribute work to idle machines like SETI@home did.
Something about SETI@home that doesn't get said enough: it didn't just do science, it created a category.
Before it, "distributed computing" meant institutional grids, cluster access, gated systems. SETI@home proved that aggregating idle cycles from millions of ordinary machines was a legitimate scientific method. That proof changed what was possible.
Folding@home came next. BOINC was built to formalize the template. Distributed citizen science became a recognized mode of doing research. None of that path was obvious before SETI@home walked it first.
What's strange is that cheap cloud compute kind of ended this era not by failing but by succeeding. Why donate your CPU when AWS is a credit card away? The economics shifted. But something got lost too — the screensaver running while you slept, the knowledge that your specific machine was doing something real in the world. That personal connection to a distributed effort hasn't really been replicated.
elicash's question is the right one. Could distributed agents revive the model? Maybe. But I suspect the hard part isn't the architecture — it's recreating the feeling that your contribution matters when it's one of ten million.
Immediate nostalgia activated. I ran this on a Pentium machine (I think) at home, still living with my parents. Sometimes I yearn for the optimism and relative naïveté of those times.
Pentium 3 in a crusty Compaq with a 5.25" bigfoot hard drive.
Those were the days
I still have both the screensaver and the moment that I realized that disabling the screensaver allowed processing to happen meaningfully quicker burned into my mind.
I was running my K6-2 and I was _convinced_ it was superior to equivalent Intel CPUs.
Spent hours watching the graph hoping to get triplets and some kind of confirmation that I just found ET.
Miss those days so much.
Same. Although with the curse of hindsight, I painfully recall choosing to run SETI@home instead of "mining" some weird digital currency called Bitcoin back in 2010. So, painful.
Exactly the same here. Ran SETI@home on all my machines back in the day. I remember running this weird bitcoin ‘thing’ for an entire week on my main machine which generated around 1.4 btc. Then I DELETED it.
Tell me about it. When Brave started the whole BAT thing 8 years ago, I had a wallet with $25 in it.
Lost access to it but today that wallet would be worth over $10.
And today that wallet would be worth $6. But tomorrow it could be worth $8.
It's optimism like this that keeps me in the market.
This paper describes the front end of SETI@home and provides parameters for the primary data source, the Arecibo Observatory
Most of this data was recorded commensally at the Arecibo observatory over a 22 yr period
Interesting as Arecibo collapsed in December of 2020. It sounds like they have a lot of data to still churn through.
>Most radio SETI projects process data in near real-time using special purpose analyzers at the telescope. SETI@home takes a different approach. It records digital time-domain (also called baseband) data, and distributes it over the internet to large numbers of computers that process the data, using both CPUs and GPUs.
Definetly something going on here I'm not following.
>SETI@home is in hiberation. We are no longer distributing tasks. [0]
Is this paper really old or something? I would love to turn on my clients again :D
[0 ]https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/
The distributed compute part of the project has turned off but data analysis continues.
I know what you mean these types of projects inspired me to contribute as a young citizen scientist.
A different domain, but https://foldingathome.org/ is still running. Using distributed compute to study protein folding.
If you are looking for a good list of these types of projects: https://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php
Wasn't this largely solved by DeepMind's AlphaFold?
https://alphafold.ebi.ac.uk/
I'd discourage claiming any biological process is "solved."
But to your point: No--AlphaFold is an amazing machine learning approach to predicting protein structure but Folding@Home is still immensely useful for simulating how proteins fold up over a timescale. They are/will be complimentary methods.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11892350/
no, alphafold is basically just a static structure predictor. folding@home explicitly models the folding process (the journey, not just the destination).
They went into hibernation, in terms of accepting new inputs, several years ago. They had more data than they could handle and switched to just analyzing existing data and final reports.
With the final analysis of this project complete, I do wonder if there's a way to bring it back with distributed agents doing the part that was so time-intensive for researchers that they had to kill it.
I was just thinking about this project the other day. Seems we have a whole lot of unused compute (and now GPU). I wish someone would create a meaningful project like this to distribute AI training or something. Imagine underfunded AI researchers being able to distribute work to idle machines like SETI@home did.
Asked Gemini about that: "are there efforts to train big LLM in a distributed fashion à la seti@home ? "
answer was really interesing: - https://github.com/PrimeIntellect-ai/prime - https://www.together.ai/
We used to use computing power to search for ET signals, now we mine bitcoins.
That’s probably because that’s what the aliens want us to be doing. They can’t have just everybody snooping around their harvesting operations.
Something about SETI@home that doesn't get said enough: it didn't just do science, it created a category.
Before it, "distributed computing" meant institutional grids, cluster access, gated systems. SETI@home proved that aggregating idle cycles from millions of ordinary machines was a legitimate scientific method. That proof changed what was possible.
Folding@home came next. BOINC was built to formalize the template. Distributed citizen science became a recognized mode of doing research. None of that path was obvious before SETI@home walked it first.
What's strange is that cheap cloud compute kind of ended this era not by failing but by succeeding. Why donate your CPU when AWS is a credit card away? The economics shifted. But something got lost too — the screensaver running while you slept, the knowledge that your specific machine was doing something real in the world. That personal connection to a distributed effort hasn't really been replicated.
elicash's question is the right one. Could distributed agents revive the model? Maybe. But I suspect the hard part isn't the architecture — it's recreating the feeling that your contribution matters when it's one of ten million.